How I Built a $3.3B Blockchain Business Against All OddsㅣKonstantin Richter, Blockdaemon
"As a founder, there's a kind of psychological fallacy where at some point you need to switch off your logical brain. This is because you're clearly working on a problem that nobody else sees."
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Intro
- 00:00There is this sort of psychological
- 00:01fallacy as a founder where at one point
- 00:04your logical brain needs to be switched
- 00:07off because obviously you're working on
- 00:09a problem that nobody else sees. I was
- 00:11working on the proof of existence
- 00:14protocol where we worked with an
- 00:16Ethereum node and I told people that I
- 00:18believe in a world where there will be
- 00:20100,000 nodes that will be run by
- 00:23institutions by 2020. That's what I
- 00:26said. And people were laughing at me. I
- 00:28knew one thing for certain that if I
- 00:30hold on and deliver this, it'll be a
- 00:32massive win. And when I told other
- 00:34people about it, they didn't believe it
- 00:36at all. They were telling me we won't do
- 00:39that. And then Block Demon itself now
- 00:41runs 250,000 nodes, you know, and so you
- 00:44need to be stupid enough to also hold on
- 00:47to an idea that most smart people around
- 00:49you will tell you is a very bad idea.
- 00:57I'm Constantine Richtor. I'm the founder
- 00:59and CEO of Blog Demon. Blockdemon is the
- 01:02leading institutional gateway for
- 01:04institutions to connect to really
- 01:06blockchains and the web 3 ecosystem. And
- 01:08so we're one of the market leaders and
- 01:11staples of the crypto industry that it
- 01:13has JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, and City
- 01:16Bank as investors and customers. Out of
- 01:18the top 500 companies active in crypto,
- 01:2170% are customers of block demon for
- 01:24infrastructure. Ultimately, what we do
- 01:26is the purest form of infrastructure we
- 01:29run in a decentralized network. One easy
What is node?
- 01:32way to think about it is that the
- 01:34internet ultimately functions via
- 01:36different gateways and so do
- 01:37blockchains. And so one way I used to
- 01:39describe blockchains to people was you
- 01:42have ultimately nodes. A node are the
- 01:45different members of the network that
- 01:47contain a copy of the ledger. Nodes are
- 01:50actually like cell towers. It's these
- 01:52groupings of individual ledgers that
- 01:54make a blockchain. And Block Demon
- 01:56manages the individual ledgers. We
- 01:59basically run these cell towers for
- 02:03blockchains for institutions. We assume
- 02:05that we run around 10% of the global
- 02:07institutional volume of nodes around the
- 02:10world. Block Demon has raised around
- 02:12$430 million. The last valuation we've
- 02:15had was $3.3
- 02:19billion. One memory I always have is
From Cold War Walls to Crypto Belief
- 02:22when the wall came down in Germany. I
- 02:25was a teenager at the time. I remember
- 02:27the cold war ending when the world
- 02:30somehow got a lot closer and also in the
- 02:33context of the history of Germany from
- 02:35the second world war being very aware
- 02:38that it's important to have systems that
- 02:40are uncorruptible in order to establish
- 02:43truth. And so I remember that time as a
- 02:47really important moment to think about
- 02:49how do we become closer as humanity? How
- 02:51do we communicate and then how do we
- 02:52ensure that the forms of communications
- 02:55are uncorruptible. What I found really
- 02:58exciting about Bitcoin specifically was
- 03:00one the immaculate conception story of
- 03:03Satoshi ultimately a value system that
- 03:06basically gets birthed by itself and
- 03:08then the people who can control it
- 03:10vanish in the background and leave it
- 03:12for the community. And I like the
- 03:14encryption and a little bit the sort of
- 03:16hackery nature of it. I did like that it
- 03:19was a currency of the underdog. Bitcoin
- 03:21was started as a result to the financial
- 03:23crisis in 2008. And the whole idea was
- 03:26to basically take control of money away
- 03:29from banks into a system that's
- 03:32transparent and fair and accessible to
- 03:34anyone. And um that excited me and I
- 03:37felt I can actually contribute to it
- 03:39because I know how to build and scale
- 03:41software companies and I know how to
- 03:43corral capital together to work on
- 03:45succinct problems and belief is
- 03:47important. I believed Bitcoin is one way
- 03:50to make the world better, but you also
- 03:52have to be an active part in creating
- 03:53that world. I didn't just want to make
- 03:56money. I also wanted to change the world
- 03:58a little bit. And I understand there's
- 03:59also lots of concerns and some of it
- 04:01might be bad, some of it might be good,
- 04:03but the system in itself I really hold
- 04:05very dearly. And so I was thinking what
- 04:07company in cryptocurrency can you build
- 04:09that is part of it but not so
- 04:11susceptible to the short-term velocity
- 04:14of tokens. And so that's why we started
- 04:16with
Keep Believeing, Even When No One Else Does
- 04:19infrastructure when I was working on the
- 04:23proof of existence protocol where we
- 04:25worked with an Ethereum node and saw
- 04:27that the physical node and
- 04:29infrastructure was very unstable and
- 04:31there weren't any tools available. When
- 04:33I started researching that subject and
- 04:36talking to my friends about it, I saw an
- 04:38opportunity and I got really excited
- 04:40about it. You know, it feels so great
- 04:42when you see a gap in the current
- 04:46product landscape. What was very
- 04:48apparent was like you couldn't go
- 04:49anywhere online and say, "Hey, is there
- 04:52a tool that helps me to run an Ethereum
- 04:54node really efficiently? Okay, if this
- 04:56is hard for us people who are really
- 04:58passionate about crypto and blockchain,
- 05:00how are institutions and banks going to
- 05:02engage in this if there's no tooling,
- 05:05nothing available?" What I saw is a
- 05:07world in which institutions would want
- 05:09to run these Ethereum nodes. And when I
- 05:12told other people about it, they didn't
- 05:14believe it at all. They were telling me
- 05:16we won't do that. But the more I learned
- 05:19about the structure of transactions, the
- 05:21cost of transactions, the more I saw the
- 05:24future in which blockchains become an
- 05:27integral part at this, I knew one thing
- 05:29for certain that if I hold on and
- 05:31deliver this, it'll be a massive win. I
- 05:34believed in the vision of the company to
- 05:36a point where nobody else believed it
- 05:38because obviously you're working on a
- 05:40problem that nobody else sees. I think
- 05:42that's the resilient part is then to
- 05:44continue to work on it while people are
- 05:46telling you this is not a problem. Why
- 05:49are you working on this? I remember
- 05:51raising money in 2017 2018. I told
- 05:53people that I believe in a world where
- 05:56there will be 100,000 nodes that will be
- 05:59run by institutions by 2020. That's what
- 06:02I said. and people were laughing at me.
- 06:04And then Block Demon itself now runs
- 06:06250,000 nodes. Uh you need to be stupid
- 06:10enough to also hold on to an idea that
- 06:13most smart people around you will tell
- 06:15you is a very bad idea.
The Mindset That Survived Two Crypto Winters
- 06:20Within 6 months of starting the company,
- 06:22the markets of crypto fell down a cliff
- 06:25which we call the crypto winter which is
- 06:27like when the tokens that drive a lot of
- 06:29the momentum in blockchain suddenly
- 06:31devalue by like 80 90%. Everybody
- 06:34stopped investing. Banks started
- 06:36exploding. We had two banks at the time.
- 06:39One bank went bankrupt and so a lot of
- 06:41the inherent growth for the business
- 06:43dried up right when I started the
- 06:45company. You know, quite frankly, at
- 06:48that point in time, everything was so
- 06:49bad. We ran out of money a few times.
- 06:52Uh, I had to subsidize payroll, for
- 06:54example. The only way for Block Demon to
- 06:57survive is if I put in everything I have
- 07:00without a clear promise of a better
- 07:02market environment, and I just have to
- 07:04make it last as long as I can with as
- 07:06much output as I can. And so there were
- 07:08a lot of moments where it felt like wow
- 07:10I don't really have a believable path
- 07:12forward but still I have to convince
- 07:15people that there is one. As an
- 07:17entrepreneur that's your job ultimately
- 07:19you have to find resources where other
- 07:20people can't. You have to keep people
- 07:22motivated and inspired when uh it looks
- 07:24very bleak and uh you just have to keep
- 07:26on leading by example.
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- 07:34The first one was block demon was very
- 07:36small. I think the second time around
- 07:38was unique because at that point we
- 07:40raised a lot of money. So we had a lot
- 07:42of capital. What was difficult is that
- 07:44we started 2022 by raising a lot of
- 07:47money buying companies to build a sort
- 07:49of really cohesive product suite that we
- 07:52thought we could sell within the year to
- 07:54institutions. And what happened is that
- 07:57market just died. There was suddenly a
- 08:00lot of pressure on ultimately scaling
- 08:02down the projects we worked on that
- 08:05created operational pressure on the
- 08:07company to how do we rightsize the
- 08:09company? How do we losing money in
- 08:12developing products that currently have
- 08:14no market? It was a lot harder because
- 08:16we had to make the hard choice to also
- 08:19let go of a lot of block demons and
- 08:21people that worked with us in order to
- 08:23um ultimately be operational efficient.
- 08:25changing strategies and letting go of
- 08:28people in order to adjust for a longer
- 08:31period of time without any growth of a
- 08:34more mature company. And so I'd say that
- 08:37crypto winter felt harder to me because
- 08:40obviously um losing people from your
- 08:43team because of that is really really
- 08:45hard. The way I describe it to people,
- 08:48it actually just felt like another
- 08:50Wednesday. You just take it on the chin
- 08:52and are like, "Okay, now I need to solve
- 08:53this problem." So you have to maintain
- 08:55an illusion of um competence and vision
- 08:59where like hey this is not a problem.
- 09:01This is just a little bump on the road.
- 09:03I know exactly how we're going to solve
- 09:04it. It's challenging because as a
- 09:06founder you know that a lot of the plans
- 09:09and thoughts I had very early on are
- 09:11assumptions. I don't know if they're
- 09:13right or wrong but I have to pretend I
- 09:15do. But you know I mean like anything
- 09:17else you just try to not tell yourself
- 09:20it's so bad and you just keep moving.
- 09:22and we found solutions for it. You know,
- 09:25um having a really strong team and
- 09:27people who uh have good integrity is
- 09:30really important in moments like that.
- 09:32And I'm very lucky that I do have a
- 09:34great team and people who stuck it out
- 09:36with me
- 09:40basically in a world where it's so hard
Survival Belongs to the Trusted
- 09:43for us to develop consensus between
- 09:45human beings when news and social media
- 09:48and everything is so um polarized and
- 09:51it's hard to know what's true and what's
- 09:53not that systems that are I want to air
- 09:56quote infallible and always true are
- 09:59really important. When the internet was
- 10:02created, people scammed people on the
- 10:03internet. I never thought the internet
- 10:05shouldn't exist. I thought there should
- 10:06be regulation and rules and education to
- 10:09protect people from scammers, but that
- 10:11the benefit of the technology of open
- 10:14access and trade outweighs the downside.
- 10:18If done correctly, crypto is the
- 10:22antithesis to scamming. It's fully
- 10:24transparent. It's traceable. You can see
- 10:26every wallet that's active on the
- 10:29network. And so it's actually the most
- 10:32scam resilient system at its core. I
- 10:35think it took us 3 years before
- 10:38institutions started engaging with us in
- 10:40order to engage with institutions. I
- 10:43think we also made the decision at the
- 10:44time that the only way institutions are
- 10:46going to engage with us is if they also
- 10:48own part of blockdemon are part of the
- 10:51governance of block demon. And so JP
- 10:53Morgan and Goldman Sachs for example
- 10:55have uh participate in the board of
- 10:57blockdemon. So they're basically also my
- 10:59bosses which means that they get to see
- 11:01the inside of the company. They get to
- 11:03question my choices. They're not just
- 11:05outside customers. They also in are
- 11:08parts of creating the company. And so I
- 11:11think that gave them a lot of
- 11:12confidence, right? And so that was an
- 11:13important initial step for the first
- 11:16customers. And the US has uh started to
Is This the Golden Era of Crypto?
- 11:19look very very different than it did in
- 11:222024. We see a huge shift that's uh
- 11:25materializing very quickly. The
- 11:27landscape of crypto will look really
- 11:30really different in the US with a lot
- 11:32more enterprises and institutions
- 11:34actively launching services uh for their
- 11:38respective customers around crypto. Uh I
- 11:40think in a complicated convoluted world
- 11:42that we live in transparency and
- 11:44efficiency are really really important.
- 11:46They're not a luxury. They're
- 11:49requirement for fair governance and
- 11:51efficiency. And so I think it is indeed
- 11:53a golden age for cryptocurrencies. Yes,
- 11:55I've seen it from it being the underdog
- 11:59to now becoming basically the not the
- 12:02main dog, but the standard, right? And
- 12:05so I think we're halfway there. And it's
- 12:06so exciting to be a fundamental part of
- 12:09something that I want to see it through.
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