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I Built a General AI Agent After School at Age 13 | Flowe AI, Michael Goldstein

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This episode features Michael Goldstein, a 13-year-old founder and CEO of Flowe AI – a general AI agent that automates everyday tasks. Born into a world where AI is everywhere, Michael represents a new generation that doesn't just use AI – they build with it. While his teachers restrict

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  1. Intro

  2. 00:00The school doesn't like AI. They don't
  3. 00:01really allow it technically. But what I
  4. 00:04think is over the past few years,
  5. 00:06there's been the rise of AI products.
  6. 00:08Naturally, over the past couple years,
  7. 00:10we all use AI on a daily basis at school
  8. 00:12like notes sometimes or for like general
  9. 00:15answers. And I think the rise of AI like
  10. 00:18in schools like uh try CBT and those
  11. 00:21types of things. I think that also kind
  12. 00:23of inspired me to do flow because it
  13. 00:25opened up a new bridge. My name is

  14. Went viral on X

  15. 00:28Michael and I'm the founder of Flow AI.
  16. 00:31Over the past few months, I've been
  17. 00:33building something by Lucer, a general
  18. 00:35AI agent that actually gets things done.
  19. 00:38From booking flights to cancel
  20. 00:39subscriptions to making presentations,
  21. 00:42Flo can do it all. This is one step
  22. 00:44closer to AGI and a glimpse of the
  23. 00:47future.
  24. 00:54Um, my name is Michael Goldstein. I'm 13
  25. 00:57years old. Uh I live in Toronto, Canada.
  26. 01:00I'm the founder of Flow AI. Flowey is a
  27. 01:02general AI agent. So it's an agent that
  28. 01:04can do a wide variety of tasks, not only
  29. 01:07one certain thing. So a couple months
  30. 01:08ago, I had the idea and I reached out to
  31. 01:11multiple developers to ask if they
  32. 01:12wanted to help. And none of them really
  33. 01:14said yes. I don't know, probably because
  34. 01:16my age and a bunch of other things. So I
  35. 01:18started building it myself using like a
  36. 01:20bunch of AI tools to help. Um so I also
  37. 01:22I do coding lessons now every week so I
  38. 01:24can in the future do it myself. No help
  39. 01:26from anyone right now. I'm actually like
  40. 01:28a paying user. Someone else said I
  41. 01:30should do normal a normal kid life. But
  42. 01:32what I think is just build build

  43. From normal kid to entrepreneur

  44. 01:47like I have a group of friends right
  45. 01:49like our little bubble and we all are
  46. 01:51kind of have a similar spirit for
  47. 01:54entrepreneur. So, a project we did and
  48. 01:56still do more of is weather balloon
  49. 01:58launches. Um, and those are really big
  50. 02:00balloons that go to 100,000 ft and then
  51. 02:03come back down. And the first one was on
  52. 02:06CNN. Yeah. For the solar eclipse, we did
  53. 02:08it during there. And I think it's fun to
  54. 02:10see it actually working. So, my friends,
  55. 02:12they they they know I have this a
  56. 02:15spirit. So, they weren't that surprised.
  57. 02:18And I think my family, I think it's the
  58. 02:20same. My family knows that I have this
  59. 02:23type of spirit. Uh so I think um they
  60. 02:27weren't surprised also when I launched
  61. 02:28it. They were very excited and happy and
  62. 02:31I don't know if they expected it to work
  63. 02:33also.
  64. 02:35I had extracted all the emails of users
  65. 02:38from Subbase and I sent an email to
  66. 02:41everyone giving them everyone a discount
  67. 02:43and I woke up and I got a response from
  68. 02:45one person who was saying the code
  69. 02:47wasn't working.
  70. 02:49Um, so I had to fix that glitch and I
  71. 02:52responded and then I got the message
  72. 02:54from Stripe. I got my first sale. It
  73. 02:56happened when I was walking downstairs.
  74. 03:00Um, so I was very excited. I told all my
  75. 03:02friends and family and parents. So I ran
  76. 03:05into my parents room. I was like, "Ah, I
  77. 03:07made it. Yay."

  78. I have more opportunities because I’m 13

  79. 03:14So uh, my experience has been good, I
  80. 03:18guess. Um, of course there's advantages
  81. 03:20like when I when I posted the launch
  82. 03:22video that did pretty well and I bet my
  83. 03:25age was a factor of that. A lot of
  84. 03:28people are also more curious because I'm
  85. 03:30younger. Uh, so I think it opens up a
  86. 03:32lot more opportunities like this
  87. 03:34interview for example. I don't know if
  88. 03:35it would have happened if I was much
  89. 03:37older. Um, so a lot of opportunities
  90. 03:40open up when I'm younger. Uh, like
  91. 03:42Founders Inc. also that's a very big
  92. 03:45accomplishment also. Um I'm the youngest
  93. 03:48accepted there. Also I was invited to a
  94. 03:51summit in Paris, one of the top AI
  95. 03:53summits. So that was that was something
  96. 03:56that happened from the interview. And
  97. 03:58the disadvantages are probably
  98. 04:01um it's hard to get people to trust you
  99. 04:03also. So on top of the advantages that
  100. 04:07some people don't really trust me, for
  101. 04:08example. And I guess like I mentioned
  102. 04:10earlier, uh recruiting is really hard um
  103. 04:14when you're much younger because I have
  104. 04:16no capital, right? I guess my birthday
  105. 04:19money, right? So I think that was the
  106. 04:21hardest part. It took a couple of months
  107. 04:23before I could recruit two developers
  108. 04:24and one guy who does who helps with
  109. 04:26strategy. They actually reached out to
  110. 04:28me first, all three of them. Uh they all
  111. 04:31reached out saying they're interested
  112. 04:32and they would love to help. uh right I
  113. 04:34reached out to a lot of adults and
  114. 04:36mentors and all types of people to help
  115. 04:38and a lot of them helped. So I think I
  116. 04:41have to give back to everyone not just
  117. 04:43them but everyone.

  118. My future depends on how ai evolves

  119. 04:49We're all interested in AI. Uh we all
  120. 04:52use AI on a daily basis at school. Uh I
  121. 04:54think not only my friends I think the
  122. 04:56whole everyone at school all the kids
  123. 04:57now use AI. So I think we're all
  124. 05:00interested in in it in terms of my
  125. 05:02friends and the school. There's a lot of
  126. 05:04AI tools available but I really think we
  127. 05:05only use one main one which is CHBT. I
  128. 05:08think a lot of kids at school don't know
  129. 05:10about the other tools and I think you
  130. 05:12have to be more involved in AI to know
  131. 05:13the other tools. So yeah I think most of
  132. 05:16the school or the kids or my friends are
  133. 05:19using child only which is unfortunate.
  134. 05:21Um only recently really is when I really
  135. 05:24learned in depth about AI and how it
  136. 05:26works and for the idea of flow it came
  137. 05:29when I when I realized that there's a
  138. 05:30big gap and that there was something
  139. 05:32that wasn't being done which is
  140. 05:34automated tasks. Uh I think it it can
  141. 05:37really help humans with efficiency. uh
  142. 05:40like my parents for example, we all
  143. 05:41waste time filling out forms. But I
  144. 05:43think that's the biggest one because
  145. 05:45there's not many platforms that are
  146. 05:46doing that like claw doesn't do that or
  147. 05:50open AAI. I think that's the biggest gap
  148. 05:52that there is. It's the browser
  149. 05:54automation. So I think in general by
  150. 05:56next year I hope to have many more
  151. 05:58features in it and I hope for it to be
  152. 06:00more smooth of course because there's
  153. 06:02many many bugs still which is uh going
  154. 06:06to be fixed over time and that I think
  155. 06:08in terms of more of the money type. I
  156. 06:10set a goal on Twitter for $10,000 in
  157. 06:13recur monthly recurring revenue and it
  158. 06:16might take plenty of years. I'm not sure
  159. 06:18how long it will take but I hope in a
  160. 06:20year we can get somewhere close to that.
  161. 06:22So I hope Floy is able to you know
  162. 06:25become part of everyone's life almost
  163. 06:28right um I think the goal that you'll be
  164. 06:31able to do that can be automated right
  165. 06:35we get to see how AI evolves and that
  166. 06:38kind of stuff I think the longterm goal
  167. 06:40for me is in some way to help people you
  168. 06:45know give back Almost.