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  1. Intro

  2. 00:00for people just starting their career I
  3. 00:01have a bit of a different advice I think
  4. 00:02a lot of people say go start your own
  5. 00:03company learn by doing I highly don't
  6. 00:05recommend that route I would recommend
  7. 00:07most people they actually go see what
  8. 00:09good looks like and that doesn't
  9. 00:10necessarily part where I talk about
  10. 00:11Prestige is that like just because
  11. 00:13something prestigious doesn't mean the
  12. 00:14right place that you're going to learn
  13. 00:15the most from the thing that might have
  14. 00:16made that procedure might no longer
  15. 00:18still be relevant because of people who
  16. 00:20were there that got it that state might
  17. 00:21not be as involved it might be a much
  18. 00:22larger company might be a lot more
  19. 00:24process it's very much about I would say
  20. 00:26go look for the smartest people you can
  21. 00:28surround yourself with and try to work
  22. 00:29there and just do like little flavor one
  23. 00:31year at a multiple companies like you
  24. 00:33really want to understand something from
  25. 00:34first principles which really requires
  26. 00:35spending multiple years trying to work
  27. 00:37through some hard problem you definitely
  28. 00:39want to try to look for places have
  29. 00:40already had some level of success and
  30. 00:42you're going to continue to build on
  31. 00:43level of success the reason I call that
  32. 00:45out is because there's some pretty
  33. 00:46interesting companies with smart people
  34. 00:47that seem smart from the outside as a
  35. 00:4922y old or when you're young it's hard
  36. 00:51to evaluate like what is smart or not
  37. 00:53smart because everyone smarter than you
  38. 00:56hi I'm Kake I'm the CEO at sift at sift
  39. 00:58we're building the data tools to go
  40. 01:00build modern machines and a lot of it is
  41. 01:01inspired by workflows and processes and
  42. 01:03how we built machines back at SpaceX
  43. 01:05where I spent the prior 4 and a half
  44. 01:07years before working on the dragon
  45. 01:08flight software program and dragon was a
  46. 01:10capsule that carried astronauts and
  47. 01:12cargo to the space station so we have uh
  48. 01:13seven publicly announced customers we
  49. 01:15raised about 25 million most recently
  50. 01:17the series a was led by GV Plus Google
  51. 01:20Ventures previous rced was led by two
  52. 01:22firms in LA CA Ventures focuses on a lot
  53. 01:24of Enterprise SAS Riot Venture is one of
  54. 01:27the best like Hardware investing firms
  55. From JPL To SpaceX

  56. 01:33I was born and raised in a little suburb
  57. 01:35outside of LA right next to JPL so I was
  58. 01:38about 10 15 minutes outside of JPL so I
  59. 01:40actually grew up going to Industry days
  60. 01:42where you can just walk in there's a lot
  61. 01:43of photos of me actually with like
  62. 01:45playing with the Mars rover and the
  63. 01:46Legos and stuff that they had at JPL I
  64. 01:48would always grew up with Legos but then
  65. 01:49like my first real like machines were
  66. 01:51LEGO Mindstorms you can build all robots
  67. 01:53and you can make very simple programs
  68. 01:55with these Legos I started that around 9
  69. 01:56so I was like fourth grade always had
  70. 01:58fun with that with my friends and I also
  71. 02:00this thing called first Lego league so
  72. 02:01first robotics they have these
  73. 02:02competitions it's most known for the
  74. 02:04high schoolers that are building like
  75. 02:05these robots they'll have like they'll
  76. 02:07be like three on three and they'll have
  77. 02:08some sort of like theme saying like Hey
  78. 02:10we're building a moon base so you have
  79. 02:11to build a robot that can go drive
  80. 02:12around on a slick floor the floor will
  81. 02:14be all whiteboard material and the
  82. 02:16wheels you have to use are basically
  83. 02:17like a whiteboard material so it's like
  84. 02:18super slippery and we all have some sort
  85. 02:20of competition we to like move these
  86. 02:22massive balls into a net whatever it is
  87. 02:24but they also have younger levels it's
  88. 02:26Lego based so that was kind of my
  89. 02:27background I was like around engineering
  90. 02:29but it wasn't like a hardcore
  91. 02:30engineering like stem background it's
  92. 02:32like I had the exposure but I had a lot
  93. 02:34of freedom to do other things there's a
  94. 02:36little bit more Nuance I knew that the
  95. 02:37whole like PayPal Mafia so basically
  96. 02:39during undergrad that's when Peter teal
  97. 02:41came out with 0 to1 so that book 0 to1 I
  98. 02:44liked it a lot kind of more contrarian
  99. 02:46very much promoting first principles
  100. 02:47thinking of that I was looking at more
  101. 02:49of like the PayPal Mafia companies but
  102. 02:51PayPal was also like much later stage I
  103. 02:53I didn't think it was the PayPal in the
  104. 02:54early days but a lot of these other
  105. 02:56companies like paler SpaceX Tesla were
  106. 02:58really interesting so that's what I was
  107. 03:00looking at as opposed to like the
  108. 03:01prestigious companies I actually would
  109. 03:03as part of advice I would highly
  110. 03:04recommend people not optimizing for
  111. 03:05Prestige do you know the atmology of the
  112. 03:07word Prestige the atmology of the word
  113. 03:09Prestige is actually it goes back to
  114. 03:10like the French word for illusion and
  115. 03:12then it goes back to the Latin word for
  116. 03:13playing tricks Conjuring tricks the
  117. 03:15whole concept like Prestige and a
  118. 03:16prestigious Place actually a bit of an
  119. 03:18illusion you just want to go to places
  120. 03:19that are like have results like can like
  121. 03:21see people say it's great but you can
  122. 03:22actually see with your own eyes on the
  123. 03:24ground truth with space xile was clearly
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  148. What I learned from SpaceX

  149. 04:24now I joined space act there is a lot of
  150. 04:27stuff to learn one of the Dragon
  151. 04:28missions as is coming back to Earth the
  152. 04:31Dragon capsule has four parachutes one
  153. 04:32of the four parachutes it didn't open
  154. 04:34until a pretty low altitude of course
  155. 04:36there's redundancy built in it was
  156. 04:37always going to be safe even though that
  157. 04:38parachute didn't open it wasn't an
  158. 04:40expected Behavior and the way that this
  159. 04:41works is these Dragon missions work on a
  160. 04:43scheduling is as soon as you bring these
  161. 04:45four astronauts back you want to launch
  162. 04:46another four immediately to get back on
  163. 04:48a space station our scheduled next
  164. 04:49launch was actually just one week behind
  165. 04:51but then NASA said hey this parachute
  166. 04:52didn't open how do we know this is not
  167. 04:54going to be a more problematic issue on
  168. 04:56the next mission and then they grounded
  169. 04:57the next flight until this result for us
  170. 04:59to actually figure out what was
  171. 05:00happening we need to see all the data
  172. 05:01that was collected from the vehicle but
  173. 05:03it's stored on this like black box on
  174. 05:05the vehicle just like I was an airplane
  175. 05:06has like this black box that stores all
  176. 05:07the data and the thing is that this
  177. 05:09capsule it lands in the Gulf of Mexico
  178. 05:10you don't have internet connection in
  179. 05:12the Gulf of Mexico to go debug this so
  180. 05:13at that time starlink was like a very
  181. 05:15experimental program so we like shot
  182. 05:17over and email the Starling team and
  183. 05:18we're like hey is there any way we can
  184. 05:20get internet over the Gulf of Mexico
  185. 05:22they activated some cells over the Gulf
  186. 05:24of Mexico upload this data from the
  187. 05:26Dragon capsule while it was sailing this
  188. 05:27is before like Starling was a thing so
  189. 05:29like getting High through put internet
  190. 05:30in middle of the ocean is not heard of
  191. 05:32we're able to send all the data back to
  192. 05:33the headquarters we able to run it
  193. 05:35through the whole testing Suite do all
  194. 05:36the analysis basically say that the next
  195. 05:38mission is good to go it's very
  196. 05:39interesting you have very smart people
  197. 05:40that are basically able to coordinate
  198. 05:42satellites to beam internet when it was
  199. 05:44a very experimental program to go
  200. 05:46accelerate your physical spacecraft
  201. 05:47company at the time so I think that was
  202. 05:49just like a very cool experience I think
  203. 05:50the biggest things I learned was just
  204. 05:52seeing what good looks like which I know
  205. 05:53is like very broad because I I actually
  206. 05:55noce you were asking the question
  207. 05:56earlier about what advice would you give
  208. 05:58and I think one of the things is just
  209. 06:00learning from the smartest folks and at
  210. 06:01SpaceX I just saw a lot of people that
  211. 06:03were operating a very high level and
  212. 06:04sure you can criticize that like maybe
  213. 06:06certain things like management might not
  214. 06:07be what everyone else likes but at the
  215. 06:09end of the day you see it with your eyes
  216. 06:10it's like the largest rocket ever
  217. 06:11launched and brought back in landing
  218. 06:13until you you can like push the boundary
  219. 06:14and like show people things that have
  220. 06:16never been possible and you're like
  221. 06:17super proud of the work you do you work
  222. 06:20really really hard but then you can look
  223. 06:21back and you're super proud of what you
  224. 06:23do I think the key learning was just how
  225. 06:24to operate at that very high level the
  226. 06:26things that stood out of operating that
  227. 06:28high level La is just urgency so it's
  228. 06:30just like high urgency High iteration
  229. 06:31rate you learn the most if you just have
  230. 06:33that urgency to move faster it was
  231. 06:35mostly I just wanted to see what good
  232. 06:36look like so I was interview on
  233. 06:37companies I thought were really high
  234. 06:39performing at that time this is what
  235. 06:402017 is when I decided to join SpaceX I
  236. 06:43was just pretty much looking for
  237. 06:45learning from very very high performing
  238. 06:46companies because I knew eventually I'd
  239. 06:48either be running a company or starting
  240. 06:50company or be in a high leadership
  241. 06:52position let me go see how it was done
  242. 06:53by the best so I was interviewing
  243. 06:55companies I thought were very very high
  244. 06:56performing at that time stripe was one
  245. 06:57of the hot companies at that time was
  246. 06:59like really interesting at the time I
  247. 07:01just wanted to learn from people who
  248. 07:02were doing well what stood about SpaceX
  249. 07:04like the interview process was just very
  250. 07:05different than every other company
  251. 07:07nobody was pitching me on benefits no
  252. 07:08one was pitching me on like work life
  253. 07:10balance they were pitching me on Mission
  254. 07:11and the work that you're doing here
  255. 07:13there's a lot more Spartan but it's also
  256. 07:14something you can look back on and be
  257. 07:16very excited about and you can like
  258. 07:18point to something great that you
  259. 07:19accomplished with another team that was
  260. 07:21grinding very hard that was the main
  261. 07:22reason why I chose it so while I was
  262. 07:24there I learned a lot about how to build
  263. 07:26machines that are safer more reliable
  264. 07:27fall tolerant I wanted to bring a lot of
  265. 07:29those ideas and practices The Wider
  266. 07:31industry of people building machines
  267. 07:33that's why we actually started sift to
  268. 07:35productize some of this knowledge into
  269. 07:36tools for the rest of the hardware
  270. 07:38industry I see Sith growing in like the
  271. 07:40vision that I would have for it or my
  272. 07:41goal I want a percentage of the physical
  273. 07:43world to be operating on Sith I want at
  274. 07:45least a percent of the trains the planes
  275. 07:47the automobiles the drones the aircraft
  276. 07:49things that are out there I want those
  277. 07:51operating on sift whether they're being
  278. 07:53designed whether they're being
  279. 07:54manufactured if they're out in the field
  280. 07:55they're generating data they need to be
  281. 07:57maintained there should be at least
  282. 07:58percentage of the physical world running
  283. Why A Customer-Centric Company

  284. 08:00on
  285. 08:04CFT process for acquiring cft's first
  286. 08:06customer was actually kind of Novel we
  287. 08:08actually just rented space parallel
  288. 08:10systems's office they're the autonomous
  289. 08:11rail company they were our first
  290. 08:13customer they have a pretty cool office
  291. 08:14and we literally just asked them if we
  292. 08:16can rent one of the rooms as we build
  293. 08:17out the product and that was just
  294. 08:18motivated by at SpaceX Elon always
  295. 08:20wanted the engineer on the factory floor
  296. 08:22so we said we should just be embedded
  297. 08:23with our customers let's go rent a room
  298. 08:25and then as we built the product we had
  299. 08:26new features we just go grab someone
  300. 08:28else in the office and say what do you
  301. 08:29think of this what do you want what do
  302. 08:30you not like our early road map was
  303. 08:32completely driven by them the evolution
  304. 08:33of our sales motion to the next first
  305. 08:36few customers it was a lot of it was
  306. 08:37like using things in network we were
  307. 08:39lucky that there's vibrant SpaceX Alum
  308. 08:41Community we also were able to reach out
  309. 08:42through existing investors our investors
  310. 08:44that were generally interested in Sith
  311. 08:45uh for introductions and also just even
  312. 08:47just reaching out on LinkedIn talking
  313. 08:49about this stuff that we so what we
  314. 08:50wanted to do showing the product but
  315. 08:52then also we had a competitor started
  316. 08:53around the same time as us we actually
  317. 08:55had a few of those bake offs in the
  318. 08:56early days the other companies knew that
  319. 08:58there's final customers do with their
  320. 08:59multiple companies in the space invited
  321. 09:00us to a bake off because it definitely
  322. 09:02added a lot of urgency on our team and
  323. 09:03we won all the bake offs that we've done
  324. 09:05to date that was actually a bit of a
  325. 09:06novel experience I would say compared to
  326. 09:08most companies I think some of the
  327. 09:09biggest lessons I've learned is that
  328. 09:11like it really all just comes down to
  329. 09:12people you have one life to live like
  330. 09:13spend it with the people you want to be
  331. 09:14around there's a lot of urgency I have
  332. 09:16very very limited time if I'm going to
  333. 09:18go spend my time with someone I want to
  334. 09:19be the best person I can spend that time
  335. 09:21with and that goes into everything
  336. 09:23whether that's work whether that's
  337. 09:24personal so choosing the best partner or
  338. 09:26that everything that you do is just
  339. 09:28inform other people that are into that
  340. 09:29the end of the day like CFT you can talk
  341. 09:30about all this Tech you can talk talk
  342. 09:31about this architecture you can talk
  343. 09:33about all this cool stuff that we do
  344. 09:34even our backgrounds or whatever but it
  345. 09:36really just comes down to people without
  346. 09:37the people we have at sift we wouldn't
  347. 09:39have the company to sift make sure you
  348. 09:41bring together the best team create
  349. 09:42opportunities for everyone to grow keep
  350. 09:44everyone happy to be there that's the
  351. 09:46main lesson I
  352. The Hidden Truth About Careers

  353. 09:50learned and that's actually a big thing
  354. 09:51I would call out because a lot of the
  355. 09:52audience here probably it looks cool to
  356. 09:54get some person that's like oh the CEO
  357. 09:56or that person who it's like a really
  358. 09:58high profile sounds really you just get
  359. 09:59them as advisors but if they're not
  360. 10:01invested in your success significantly
  361. 10:02they're not going to be actually helping
  362. 10:04you they're not going to be doing
  363. 10:05interviews they're not going to help you
  364. 10:06on the trenches and you need to get
  365. 10:07people who are going to do that and in
  366. 10:09that process they're going to challenge
  367. 10:10you and get the smartest folks around so
  368. 10:12the best way to evaluate what is a good
  369. 10:13team or smart team honestly is just a
  370. 10:15kiss a lot of frogs maintaining that
  371. 10:16Talent bar and looking for people who
  372. 10:18want to do something challenging that
  373. 10:19they can be proud of they're going to
  374. 10:21work hard and they can think around like
  375. 10:22the same level or smarter than you even
  376. 10:24better for people just starting the
  377. 10:25career I have a bit of a different
  378. 10:27advice I think a lot of people say go
  379. 10:28start your own company learn by doing I
  380. 10:30highly don't recommend that route I
  381. 10:31would recommend most people they
  382. 10:32actually go see what good looks like and
  383. 10:34that doesn't necessarily part where I
  384. 10:36talk about Prestige is that like just
  385. 10:37because something's procedes doesn't
  386. 10:39mean that it's like the right place that
  387. 10:40you're going to learn the most from the
  388. 10:41thing that might have made that
  389. 10:42procedure might no longer still be
  390. 10:44relevant because the people who were
  391. 10:45there that got it to that state might
  392. 10:47not be as involved it might be a much
  393. 10:48larger company might be a lot more
  394. 10:49process it's very much about I would say
  395. 10:52go look for the smartest people you can
  396. 10:53surround yourself with and try to work
  397. 10:55there and don't just do like little
  398. 10:56flavor one year at multiple companies
  399. 10:58like you really want understand
  400. 10:59something from first principles which
  401. 11:01really requires spending multiple years
  402. 11:02TR to work through some hard problems
  403. 11:04you definitely want to try to look for
  404. 11:05places have already had some level of
  405. 11:07success and you're going to continue to
  406. 11:09build on a level of success the reason I
  407. 11:10call that out is because there's some
  408. 11:12pretty interesting companies but smart
  409. 11:13people that seem smart from the outside
  410. 11:14and as a 22y old or when you're young
  411. 11:16it's hard to evaluate like what is smart
  412. 11:18or not smart because everyone's smarter
  413. 11:20than you you want to be careful to not
  414. 11:22go somewhere spend a decade and if that
  415. 11:24company shuts down you don't know what
  416. 11:25that company did that was successful or
  417. 11:27not successful that's why it's good to
  418. 11:29go to place has like some level of
  419. 11:30success that has momentum and it's
  420. 11:31continuing to grow so like SpaceX was
  421. 11:33really awesome in that regard they were
  422. 11:35actually around the time I landed was
  423. 11:36the first time the Falcon heavy was
  424. 11:37launched they already had rocket Falcon
  425. 11:399 rockets that were launching they
  426. 11:40already had the Dragon 1 program but
  427. 11:42there's still a lot more they were
  428. 11:43planning on doing they weren't just like
  429. 11:44sitting and resting that's what I would
  430. 11:46optimize for the reason I call out the
  431. 11:48prestige is like I would completely
  432. 11:49remove the prestige like if you really
  433. 11:50want to do that go do that the reason I
  434. 11:51call that out is because a lot of times
  435. 11:53people will go into that career purely
  436. 11:54for the sake of that saying like it
  437. 11:55looks cool you can go tell your aunts
  438. 11:57about it but are you going to learn as
  439. 11:59much are you doing like hard skills are
  440. 12:00you actually working on the problem are
  441. 12:02you completely abstracted away are you
  442. 12:04just multiplying the Grump work that's
  443. 12:05being done so like are you actually
  444. 12:07going to ownership of things or are you
  445. 12:08just like being the grunt work
  446. 12:09multiplier for someone else that's more
  447. 12:11senior so the reason I recommend people
  448. 12:13to join a company doing something hard
  449. 12:15and like seeing what great looks like
  450. 12:16it's very difficult to strive for
  451. 12:17greatness if you've never seen what
  452. 12:18greatness looks like cool you can go
  453. 12:20watch as many podcasts as you want you
  454. 12:21can go see what some blog posts but it's
  455. 12:23kind of like Instagram right you only
  456. 12:24see the best of someone's life you only
  457. 12:26see like a very curated version that's
  458. 12:28in like a blog post but what were the
  459. 12:29decisions that got the company to that
  460. 12:31place what were the nine failures they
  461. 12:33had for that one success that's what you
  462. 12:35learn by actually solving hard problems
  463. 12:37and you don't get that by spending one
  464. 12:38two years at like six companies and then
  465. 12:40saying I'm going to do an MBA and then
  466. 12:42go start company for example and you
  467. 12:43just really have to work deeply on a
  468. 12:45hard problem with smart folk and a hard
  469. 12:46Problem by the way can be different
  470. 12:48problems like you don't necessarily have
  471. 12:49to go build Rockets even just like
  472. 12:50growing like a software startup there's
  473. 12:52a lot of challenges in building that
  474. 12:53company honestly like I don't think it's
  475. 12:55a complete reflection on the other
  476. 12:56person not being smart I think just
  477. 12:58what's the right role for the person
  478. 12:59like for somebody join your company it's
  479. 13:01like it's a pretty big risk it might be
  480. 13:02very different than somewhere else that
  481. 13:03they've been very successful at someone
  482. 13:05who might have been very very successful
  483. 13:06like a sales force they might struggle
  484. 13:08in a much earlier stage role like I
  485. 13:09wouldn't hold it against them it's just
  486. 13:11a process like don't feel as bad about
  487. 13:12it everyone does it everyone struggles
  488. 13:14everyone finds it hard but as you're
  489. 13:16talking about iteration rate you want to
  490. 13:17kiss more frogs you'll see what's good
  491. 13:19what's not a lot faster than sitting
  492. 13:21there trying to grind through a bad
  493. The First Principle Thinking

  494. 13:25decision the best things I learned while
  495. 13:28working at SpaceX very very strong focus
  496. 13:30on first principles thinking you can
  497. 13:32just keep asking why a lot of times
  498. 13:34people push something off and they say
  499. 13:35oh well we're waiting for this person
  500. 13:37before we have that meeting is something
  501. 13:39scheduled for 2 weeks from now it's like
  502. 13:40why does that person even have to be in
  503. 13:41the meeting what can we go around and
  504. 13:42still move let's say something's not
  505. 13:44working instead of just saying like oh
  506. 13:46that's not working because it's just
  507. 13:47broken or it's like a thing that you
  508. 13:48can't do like people say you can't land
  509. 13:49Rockets like why why can't you land
  510. 13:51rocket we fly and land planes all the
  511. 13:53time people like oh because of this or
  512. 13:55this technical reason and it's like well
  513. 13:56not actually blocked by physics it's
  514. 13:57just that nobody's ever done it before
  515. 13:59basically you keep asking why till the
  516. 14:01point physics is the reason you can't do
  517. 14:03it I think that's what I would consider
  518. 14:04first principles but it applies
  519. 14:06everywhere it's like I think a lot of
  520. 14:07times we have a tendency to just say oh
  521. 14:09the hardware team says we can't do this
  522. 14:10it's like well who on the hardware team
  523. 14:12and you go talk to that person you
  524. 14:13realize they actually can do it but it's
  525. 14:14just like some other thing that they
  526. 14:15also need and if you as long as you get
  527. 14:17that then you can actually get this
  528. 14:18thing a lot faster there's actually this
  529. 14:20plays into a lot of like Risk as well
  530. 14:22Warner Von Bron who used to run NASA
  531. 14:24back in the during the Apollo era he
  532. 14:26noticed that let's say some engineer
  533. 14:27identified a risk and then they told
  534. 14:29manager about it the manager would
  535. 14:30downplay that risk it would go from
  536. 14:31saying oh this is fatal when you stop
  537. 14:33the mission to the manager saying hey
  538. 14:34this is a really high risk that person's
  539. 14:36manager says oh we need to go look into
  540. 14:38this by the time it reaches Warner Von
  541. 14:39Brun he would actually just basically
  542. 14:41someone would says oh everything's good
  543. 14:43to go he actually implemented this thing
  544. 14:44called like weekly notes so what he
  545. 14:46would do is he had every individual
  546. 14:47engineering squad or team write notes
  547. 14:49and his team would compile them into a
  548. 14:51book and he would actually review all
  549. 14:52them so he basically sees ground truth
  550. 14:54and he can actually make decisions from
  551. 14:55first principles about what's holding of
  552. 14:57the program and basically that's how we
  553. 14:59put a person on the moon those Rockets
  554. 15:01probably have the compute power of like
  555. 15:02a ti84 calculator you can do some pretty
  556. 15:04cool things when you actually dig into
  557. 15:10[Applause]
  558. 15:14yapor
  559. 15:16engines we can see those chck
  560. 15:28[Music]
  561. 15:40let