From Google’s First PM to Backing 50 Unicorns — The 10X Principle | Felicis, Aydin Senkut
From Google's first product manager to founding Felicis Ventures, Aydin Senkut shares his journey of turning obstacles into opportunities. At Google, he embr...
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Don't Let People Put You in the Box
- 00:00There were maybe six or seven things in
- 00:02my life where I was in a very difficult
- 00:04situation and I was having a very tough
- 00:06time and what I did then uh led me to
- 00:09being here today. I think as human
- 00:11beings whenever there's a setback
- 00:13whenever there is tough time there's
- 00:15almost like two things we can do either
- 00:16we can accept the setback we can say
- 00:19okay this is terrible but then what we
- 00:21do after really matters right and so I
- 00:23think the most important thing is like
- 00:24to suspend this belief and I think it's
- 00:26really important because one of the
- 00:27things that I tell people is that I am
- 00:30really sitting here almost in every
- 00:32critical part of my life people tried to
- 00:35put me in a box and that was not the box
- 00:37I wanted right like they're like oh like
- 00:39you're going to stay in Turkey, you're
- 00:40never going to get out of it. Then I
- 00:42come to the US and like, oh, like,
- 00:43you're only in this university and not
- 00:44the best university. Then I go there and
- 00:46they're like, you're not engineer and
- 00:48you won't work at a tech company. Then I
- 00:49come to a tech company, it's like, well,
- 00:51you haven't been trained for this.
- 00:52You'll never do it. And I do it and it's
- 00:54like, well, you were not a VP and you
- 00:56won't do this. And then I come to
- 00:57venture capital, it's like, you can
- 00:58never do venture capital because you've
- 01:00never done venture capital. So I think
- 01:02this is just one example of like a
- 01:04setback and disappointment. Like as
- 01:06founders, like they're going to tell you
- 01:07it's never going to work. This idea is
- 01:09horrible. it's not going to happen. And
- 01:10I think at that point what you need to
- 01:12do is like set everything aside and burn
- 01:15the bridges and say the only way is just
- 01:17basically like do whatever it takes.
- 01:19Come up with a different idea like go
- 01:20back. Is there some other way it could
- 01:22be done? And that literally is the
- 01:24difference between being successful and
- 01:26making it or essentially you let other
- 01:28people put you in a box, right? And like
- 01:30the nice thing about it is a much harder
- 01:32and it's big effort but it means that
- 01:34you control your destiny, right? Like
- 01:36yes, it might be horrible. It might be
- 01:38even more difficult and nobody's
- 01:39believing you or depressed, but just
- 01:41remember that that doesn't mean that
- 01:43somebody is taking charge of your
- 01:45destiny. You still have control of your
- 01:47destiny. And what you do with that
- 01:49matters and that's why I like to say all
- 01:51that setback, all that difficulty, I see
- 01:53it as jet fuel. So put that jet fuel
- 01:55back in the jet and like get into the
- 01:57rocket and try to uh try to get to where
- 02:00you're trying to go.
- 02:02[Music]
- 02:06Hi, thank you for having me. My name is
- 02:08Iden Senkut. I'm the founder and
Introducing Aydin and Felicis
- 02:10managing partner of Felicis, early stage
- 02:13venture firm with a global mandate. We
- 02:15are also very proud that so far from the
- 02:18companies that we've invested early,
- 02:20more than 45 of them have already
- 02:22crossed and exceeded a billion dollars
- 02:23in valuation, 100 exits. especially
- 02:27proud that in a little less than 14
- 02:29years. Our portfolio, we already have 17
- 02:32IPOs, some notable portfolio companies
- 02:35include companies that have gone public
- 02:36and achieved a very high valuation like
- 02:39Shopify and then some of the largest
- 02:41private companies including Canva in
- 02:43Australia, Notion uh in the US. I
- 02:46believe notion was also already on the
- 02:47EO channel. And then some other really
- 02:49exciting companies uh some especially
- 02:51focus on AI like Runway and then also
- 02:54some other interesting companies like
- 02:55one of our labs which is in defense and
The 10X Principle
- 03:09AI. So before I started Felicia's
- 03:12Ventures I was Google's first product
- 03:14manager. When I started at Google, one
- 03:16of the most interesting and brilliant
- 03:18things we did is to launch Gmail. I
- 03:20think Gmail was extremely important to
- 03:22us and it really helped Google scale.
- 03:24Google was just beginning to monetize.
- 03:27Believe it or not, we did not have ads
- 03:29yet and Larry and Sergey were vehemently
- 03:31against ads because they did not think
- 03:34yet how we could incorporate ads in a
- 03:37very quality way into our search
- 03:38results. that came while I was at Google
- 03:40and a huge breakthrough where we decided
- 03:42that the way to make ads as relevant was
- 03:45to basically measure and rank them by
- 03:47click-through rate because then we could
- 03:48have confidence that as users indicate
- 03:50which ads are most helpful to them the
- 03:52ads could be as interesting and useful
- 03:54as the search results. I I would say
- 03:57there are three main lessons. One is and
- 04:00this is something that I especially
- 04:01learned from Larry but he was very
- 04:03adamant and he always really cared about
- 04:05focusing on a very few things. I used to
- 04:08joke that his favorite word was no. Uh I
- 04:10think 90% of the time he just said no
- 04:12and then very few times he said yes. But
- 04:14when he said yes, you knew that that was
- 04:16something that mattered and everybody
- 04:18rallied around and try to make that
- 04:20possible whatever it was he was asking.
- 04:22The other thing that Larry did that I
- 04:24think was very interesting is he always
- 04:26asked for very uncomfortable, very
- 04:29difficult goals. I think that the other
- 04:31message from that was you cannot build a
- 04:33truly great company if you're only
- 04:35striving for a 10% or 20% improvement.
- 04:38We did something interesting at Google
- 04:39where we essentially had a very healthy
- 04:42disrespect of status quo and what we did
- 04:45is often times we tried to find the
- 04:46world's smartest people gave them
- 04:48challenges whether they had an
- 04:50experience or knowledge in this area or
- 04:52not and just told them to do it. So a
- 04:54good example of that I used to bike with
- 04:56the lead engineer in the ads serving
- 04:58team and interestingly that engineer was
- 05:00not specialized in ad serving at all.
- 05:02One day Sergey went to him and said,
- 05:03"Oh, we decided that we're going to
- 05:05build an ad server. Chad," his name was
- 05:07Chad, "you're very smart. Pick five more
- 05:09engineers. You have about 6 months. And
- 05:11in 6 months, I want to make sure that we
- 05:13have a functioning ad server." And they
- 05:15did it. And I joke, they did it because
- 05:17they had no idea what they were getting
- 05:19into. And so they just made it happen.
- 05:21And if this wasn't in any other large
- 05:22company, they would have asked for
- 05:24hundreds of engineers and probably said
- 05:26it would take them a couple years to
- 05:27build something like that.
- 05:29So, one of the rules or principles that
- 05:31stuck with me from my days at Google is
- 05:33the 10X principle. Meaning that if you
- 05:35want to be really great at something
- 05:37like if you have a startup, even in an
- 05:39investment firm, whatever it is that
- 05:40you're doing, if you're working at a
- 05:42company, starting a company, scaling a
- 05:44company, it is very important that
- 05:45whatever is you do has to be 10 times
- 05:48better, 10 times cheaper or 10 times
- 05:50faster, maybe ideally all three than the
- 05:53competition, than the existing
- 05:54solutions. this uh give me a sense of
- 05:57the philosophy of your own mind. I mean
- 05:59you have this idea of 10x I mean you you
- 06:02don't simply want uh to go in some small
- 06:07measurable arena of
- 06:09progress. Yeah. I think you know many of
- 06:12the things we just talked about are like
- 06:13that where they're really non you I
- 06:16almost use the economic concept of
- 06:18additionality. Yeah. Which means that
- 06:20you're doing something that wouldn't
- 06:23happen unless you're actually doing it.
- 06:25And um I think the more you can do
- 06:28things like that, the bigger impact you
- 06:29have.
- 06:31And you know that's about doing things
- 06:34that are you know people might not think
- 06:36are possible. And I've been amazed the
- 06:39more I learn about technology the more I
- 06:42realize I don't know. And that's because
- 06:44this technological
- 06:45horizon the thing that you can see to do
- 06:48next. The more you learn about
- 06:51technology the more you learn what's
- 06:53possible. you learn that the balloons
- 06:55are possible because there's some
- 06:57material that will work for them. So the
- 06:5910x principle can also apply to the
- 07:02markets that you decide to go after. I
- 07:04think one of the things that we really
- 07:05care when we're making investment
- 07:07decisions, the number one thing is that
- 07:09we try to find markets that are poised
- 07:11for great growth. The markets can be
- 07:13either very large or can potentially
- 07:16become very large, especially if there
- 07:18is great growth, if there is a critical
- 07:20product. And one of the things that we
- 07:21like to think most of our most
- 07:23successful companies have a very broad
- 07:25customer base. For instance, if you look
- 07:26at Shopify powering commerce, I mean
- 07:29commerce basically applies to almost
- 07:30every business in the world. Adan with
- 07:32payments. Any business if they want to
- 07:34create revenues, they have to have
- 07:36payments or some of our other companies
- 07:38like recursion or cancer. I mean at the
- 07:40end of the day there are certain
- 07:42illnesses and diseases in the world that
- 07:44unfortunately at some point might affect
- 07:46either ourselves or our family members
- 07:48or our friends. So, we love companies
- 07:50that are doing something not just
- 07:51important, but something that's
- 07:52potentially applicable to almost
- 07:54anywhere in the world. We can see this
- 07:55as the extension of the 10X principle
- 07:57because the larger the market, the
- 07:59higher the potential for a company to be
- 08:00successful. But one of the other things
- 08:02that we really pay great attention to is
- 08:04that the companies are doing something
- 08:06that is so revolutionary, so incredible
- 08:09that the impact coincides with the 10x
- 08:11principle. It's that 10x better, 10x
- 08:13faster, 10x cheaper. We tell our team
- 08:15over and over again is look for that
- 08:17either that the company can do it or the
- 08:20company has an idea and the potential to
- 08:21do
Market Always Wins
- 08:27it. We really start with the market and
- 08:30one of the reasons for that is I call it
- 08:32is almost like a Newtonian law in
- 08:34startups is that when anything else goes
- 08:36against markets the markets win. So you
- 08:38have to be in the right market and you
- 08:40also roughly have to get the timing
- 08:41right. So I think one of the ways that
- 08:43we try to make our decisions better and
- 08:46use mental you know conserve mental
- 08:48power we are very selective in the
- 08:49markets that we go after and once we
- 08:51choose that I feel it's one of the most
- 08:53important parts of the decision then the
- 08:55secret is can you identify the founders
- 08:57that can really scale I obviously am not
- 08:59going to lie to you founders are
- 09:00extremely important and the next most
- 09:02important thing in our decision process
- 09:04is essentially understanding founders
- 09:06understanding people and this is an
- 09:08important point because not only do we
- 09:10have and this is the reason why the
- 09:11teams Diversity is really important, but
- 09:13one of the things that I don't think
- 09:14people appreciate it in my background is
- 09:17the fact that I spend a lot of time in
- 09:19sales. Spend a lot of time trying to
- 09:21understand people. And everybody thinks
- 09:23venture capital is finance. It's all
- 09:24about the numbers, but everybody's good
- 09:26at numbers in venture capital. What is
- 09:28more difficult and more rare is being
- 09:30able to understand people and being able
- 09:32to relate to people. So, I feel like
- 09:34that was my superpower that really
- 09:36helped me be a great investor. And we
- 09:38actually went even beyond that. And one
- 09:40of our operating part amazing operating
- 09:41partner we brought on uh Michelle Delra
- 09:44who joined us from stripe and she also
- 09:45worked at stripe octa data bricks each
- 09:48one of these companies were 10 billion
- 09:50plus in value and she specializes in you
- 09:52know people and like recruiting and
- 09:54interviewing people. So, we actually
- 09:56like have her often join our investment
- 09:58meetings when we're evaluating founding
- 10:00teams because we want her to also look
- 10:02at the founding team and say what she
- 10:03thinks of the team and if she thinks
- 10:05that their culture or their ideas or
- 10:07something about them gives us confidence
- 10:08that they're going to build a truly
- 10:10great and enduring company. And it's
- 10:11again something that we do that's very
- 10:13different and unique where people that
- 10:15have these different strengths and not
- 10:17necessarily part of the investment team
- 10:19are leveraged before we actually make an
- 10:21investment decision.
- 10:23I mean, I can pick some some examples.
- 10:25Look, I think one of the most impressive
- 10:27ones is Shopify. Shopify was another
- 10:29incredible concept. You know, Toby,
- 10:31who's the founder of Shopify with his
- 10:33two co-founders, actually he wanted to
- 10:35do a snowboard store and realized that
- 10:37there were no no great tools available
- 10:39to do that. And then he basically
- 10:41decided that actually a better idea was
- 10:43to start a software company. He was
- 10:45clearly very good at that. But he had
- 10:46some really unique insights. One,
- 10:48Shopify underpriced the product to make
- 10:50it available. Shopify I think always
- 10:53undercharged for the product because
- 10:54they thought hey if people are getting
- 10:56value and those businesses are scaling
- 10:58they can grow with those businesses. I
- 10:59think Toby also made some really great
- 11:01decisions. I will mention couple for
- 11:03instance from very early on even though
- 11:05Shopify was very easy to use. People
- 11:07were still finding Shopify and using it
- 11:10through agencies and other channels. So
- 11:12they went to the channel and agencies
- 11:13said look we're not going to give you a
- 11:15one-time fee. If somebody is using
- 11:16Shopify through you and they continue
- 11:19using it through you, you're going to
- 11:20get lifetime commissions. So,
- 11:22underpricing the product, fantastic
- 11:24product, treating the channel really
- 11:25well and being very creative of giving
- 11:26them lifetime commissions. I think the
- 11:28other aspect of it, similar to what I
- 11:30experienced at Google, Toby realized
- 11:32what were the most important product
- 11:34aspects. So, for instance, when Shopify
- 11:36launched payments, it was at a perfect
- 11:38time and it really contributed the
- 11:40company's stratospheric growth. So
- 11:42again, the idea that hey, listen, if you
- 11:44want to scale a business, there's going
- 11:45to be a few really important decisions
- 11:46and it's important to get it right. The
- 11:48last nuance, this by the way happened
- 11:50both at Google and Shopify, but both
- 11:52Google and Shopify had very good
- 11:54internal uh data, real-time data on how
- 11:56the business ran. And for instance, like
- 11:58early on Google when we were even like
- 12:0050 people, we had internal dashboards
- 12:02that I could see anything from which
- 12:04servers are up to how many cues are
- 12:06being served around the world and how
- 12:07our customers doing. Every aspect of the
- 12:09business is available. the information
- 12:11on it was available in real time. I
- 12:13think Shopify built something like that
- 12:14internally as well. I always like to use
- 12:16the example of F1 is one of my favorite
- 12:18sports and one of the things that's
- 12:20special about it is it's a sport where
- 12:21everything is measured in 1/1,000 of a
- 12:23second and the success is often
- 12:25determined by very very tiny like minute
- 12:28differences and they can do that because
- 12:30they measure every aspect of everything
- 12:32that's happening. One of the biggest
- 12:33things that I learned for startups is
- 12:35that yes, you might want to be
- 12:37successful, but the only way to do that
- 12:39if you know what to measure and you're
- 12:40measuring it in a very comprehensive way
- 12:43because that then allows you to realize
- 12:45that
The DNA of Exceptional Founders
- 12:50performance. I think there are many
- 12:52factors. We will talk about personal
- 12:54elements of founders but I will
- 12:56reiterate I think being in the right
- 12:58market is very important. So if you
- 12:59choose the wrong market is very
- 13:01difficult to be successful if not
- 13:02impossible. So no matter what happens I
- 13:04think finding the right market and
- 13:06ideally getting the timing mostly right
- 13:07is very important. After that I think
- 13:09there are certain elements. Number one
- 13:11whoever is the founder you need to be
- 13:13very focused. I think early on because
- 13:14you have very few people the tendency is
- 13:16well the only way I can feel successful
- 13:19and great as a CEO is if I'm doing like
- 13:2150 things. But the reality is there are
- 13:23very few things that truly is going to
- 13:25make a difference in the company. and
- 13:26doing 50 things or 20 things, it means
- 13:28that you're not going to do each one of
- 13:30them extremely well. But success in the
- 13:32beginning means you have to be focused.
- 13:34You have very limited resources.
- 13:35Understand one or two things that matter
- 13:37and absolutely do the best job in those
- 13:39things. The only way you can do that is
- 13:41if you're able to focus on them and do a
- 13:43great job. One important thing is uh
- 13:45just consistency and you know staying at
- 13:48it like I'll give you an example like
- 13:49one of the tough things as a startup
- 13:51speed is your biggest friend. You can do
- 13:53many things with a small team but
- 13:55because the team is really small in the
- 13:57beginning probably the progress will not
- 13:59be super big. There will be like small
- 14:00things but what we forget is small
- 14:02things can compound to something very
- 14:04big. And then the other thing that I
- 14:05will say I think everybody thinks that
- 14:07great companies succeed in a straight
- 14:09line and they never succeed in a
- 14:10straight line. So I think one of the
- 14:12hardest things to do as a founder is
- 14:14essentially like take setback, take
- 14:17disappointment, take no, take skeptics
- 14:19and then keep going, right? like you
- 14:21have to like be at it. And to me like
- 14:23what I always like to say is um people
- 14:25that underestimate me or my team any
- 14:28type of rejection any type of setback or
- 14:31disappointment I call it jet fuel like
- 14:33it makes you angry you know it makes you
- 14:35upset creates this feeling it's like no
- 14:37like we deserve better honestly how you
- 14:39feel doesn't matter but what does matter
- 14:40is to take that mental energy and then
- 14:43say okay you know what I'm going to take
- 14:44that and make things better I'm going to
- 14:46do try one more time I'm going to try a
- 14:48different way and that's what it takes
- 14:50and sometimes it might be 10 times 20
- 14:52times 30 times until you get to the
- 14:54first time where it's a yes or it works
- 14:57or your first customer. But it's very
- 14:59important that you stay at it and you
- 15:00don't give up. I think the second thing
- 15:03we kind of touched on it but how
- 15:05important it is to find a way to measure
- 15:07success. Let's say that we have a
- 15:08vision. We you know we want to be very
- 15:10successful. Well like for instance if
- 15:12you want to be a great successful
- 15:14investment firm you need to have you
- 15:16know density of success from a 100
- 15:18investments you make. How many of them
- 15:19are exited? how many of them become
- 15:21successful companies. These are very
- 15:23black and white numbers. If we say we
- 15:24have a global strategy, one of the
- 15:26things that I'm very proud of any stage
- 15:28that we worked at, any sector we looked
- 15:30at, any country we invested in, pretty
- 15:32much every single area of our strategy,
- 15:34we have a success. We have an IPO or an
- 15:36exit. And so that basically makes it
- 15:38very black and white. And when you can
- 15:39measure things that specifically, it
- 15:41really does help like optimize and you
- 15:43know like make the business successful.
- 15:45Um that's I think like super important
- 15:46as well. I think the last aspect of it
- 15:49is combination storytelling, combination
- 15:51charm. Let me explain. I think one of
- 15:53the most important jobs of a founder,
- 15:55especially a CEO, is you have to be able
- 15:57to get customers. You have to be able to
- 15:59hire people. You have to be able to keep
- 16:01scaling the company even when times are
- 16:03hard. A lot of times that means that you
- 16:05have to be a great storyteller because
- 16:07let's be honest, if you're buying
- 16:08something today, you're not buying
- 16:10something just because of the product
- 16:12and some future, but there is something
- 16:13about that brand that appeals to you.
- 16:15It's the same thing when we're joining
- 16:16companies is that yes, you know, maybe
- 16:18at the end it's a job, but the company's
- 16:20culture and the company's vibe really
- 16:22matters. How charismatic the leader is
- 16:24matters. And so that's very important.
- 16:25And I think something that I found in
- 16:27founders and it is unfortunately not
- 16:29negotiable. Like you either have to have
- 16:31yourself or like maybe a co-founder
- 16:33who's very good at storytelling, who's
- 16:35very charismatic so that it allows you
- 16:37to hire amazing people. And part of it
- 16:39is also the mission. The more ambitious
- 16:40the mission of the company, obviously
- 16:42the more people will get excited about
- 16:44it. And that comes again back to the 10X
- 16:46principle is that a lot of times ideas
- 16:48are ideas but some ideas are more
- 16:50powerful and more scary than others. So
- 16:53the bigger the idea and the bigger the
- 16:55impact I think then even though it might
- 16:57be difficult it's going to inspire
- 16:59people and it's going to motivate them
- 17:00to do something that's really hard
- 17:02because at the end of the day we want
- 17:03our lives to have purpose and the best
- 17:04way to do that is if you're pursuing a
- 17:06very challenging problem. I think I was
- 17:09a horrible storyteller and how do I know
- 17:11that? When I first tried to start
- 17:14Felicis, I had, I think, at least 40
- 17:16nos. It was very disappointing because I
- 17:18thought I was telling a great story and
- 17:20I was very proud of my idea and I was
- 17:22very excited about what we're going to
- 17:24build. And honestly, the main strategy
- 17:27has always been the same. But what I
- 17:29realized is that what I was trying to
- 17:31talk about and what people were hearing
- 17:33were not always the same. What I also
- 17:34started appreciating is that it wasn't
- 17:37just important what I was telling but I
- 17:39needed to understand what people cared
- 17:41about on the other side. And so for me a
- 17:44lot of it came down to just practice. I
- 17:46think I shared with my team but when we
- 17:47got our first check I think the version
- 17:49of our deck was like 107 which means
- 17:51that we had 107 revisions to the deck
- 17:53that the message was the same. The
- 17:55strategy was the same but we like
- 17:57iterated 107 times to tell the story 107
- 18:00ways until the first person said yes. I
- 18:02think the second thing is you have to be
- 18:04a great student of people. I think a lot
- 18:06of times we get so excited about the
- 18:08ideas as founders. All we can think
- 18:10about is what we love and what we are
- 18:12going to do and why we think this is
- 18:14going to be successful. We don't think
- 18:15as much about the other people. And so
- 18:17part of being a great storyteller is
- 18:19know your audience. And in order to know
- 18:21your audience, you need to really
- 18:22understand them. Who are they? Where did
- 18:23they come from? What do they like? Where
- 18:25did they go to school? How how were they
- 18:27brought up? And I think that matters
- 18:28because it feels like the last 10% of
- 18:31the details are maybe the 90% of the
- 18:33value. But most people do the first 90%
- 18:36but then they don't want to put the
- 18:37effort into the last 10%. And the last
- 18:40small details can make a very big
Why Investment is More than Just a Numbers Game
- 18:47difference. One of the things that I'm
- 18:49really proud of investment is a tough
- 18:51business because what we do is
- 18:53essentially like we're writing checks
- 18:54but the thing that we're doing is not
- 18:56something you can touch. like you can't
- 18:57touch this table and say look we are
- 18:59carpenters and we make great tables. The
- 19:01thing that really means the world to us
- 19:03is twofold. One, we feel that as our
- 19:06portfolio globally becomes larger, it's
- 19:08becoming more and more clear to us that
- 19:10every minute, every hour of the day,
- 19:12somebody in the world is interfacing,
- 19:14interacting with the Felic's portfolio
- 19:16company and hopefully in a good way,
- 19:17right? Whether it's one of our, you
- 19:19know, biotech companies like curing a
- 19:21rare disease or cancer, diagnosing a
- 19:23disease, it's one of our other companies
- 19:24like Shopify helping somebody uh become
- 19:27an entrepreneur or at the end, you know,
- 19:28help process payments. uh or one of our
- 19:31you know creativity company like Canva
- 19:33maybe it's a kid at school and you know
- 19:34they want to create something and the
- 19:36first tool they use is Canva and that's
- 19:38a very fantastic feeling that the way
- 19:40that the world is today the way it's
- 19:42going to be in the future and as the
- 19:44future gets created it's Felissa's
- 19:46companies that are taking the lead to
- 19:47create that future and that's an
- 19:49incredible feeling and then I think the
- 19:50same is true uh about our limited
- 19:53partners so the people that invest in
- 19:54our funds basically they're all like
- 19:56endowments they are health systems uh
- 19:59their organizations that have kind of a
- 20:00charitable cause or mission. Uh and some
- 20:02of our other foundations or families
- 20:04that we work with are working on freedom
- 20:06of speech or you know they have like
- 20:08great charitable causes like saving the
- 20:09oceans and all of that. So what we feel
- 20:11great is that we are not just about
- 20:13financial returns but the impact of that
- 20:15is going to be making the world a better
- 20:17place. Partly true with our companies
- 20:19but also partly through our limited
- 20:20partners and our
- 20:22investors. I really would like to see
- 20:25technology play a bigger role in peace
- 20:27whatever that may be. I mean, look, I I
- 20:29think I also want technology to make us
- 20:32happier because one of the things that
- 20:33I'm seeing that stresses me out. I have
- 20:36two kids, teenagers, and I see how much
- 20:39technology is pervasive in their life.
- 20:41But I am also seeing maybe compared to
- 20:43my generation. This generation has a lot
- 20:45more in terms of technology and wealth,
- 20:47but they're more stressed and they have
- 20:49more mental issues than I've ever seen.
- 20:51I think it's very important that we have
- 20:53to take ownership and responsibility.
- 20:55the world is not just about the impact
- 20:57that technology can have and the wealth
- 20:58that it can create, but if it's making
- 21:01us more depressed and less happy, I feel
- 21:03like then we we lost the point. We
- 21:05missed the point. So to me, my dream and
- 21:08my hope would be that not only does
- 21:10technology keep advancing, which it
- 21:11will, will create more value, which it
- 21:13will, but it also has a positive impact
- 21:16on humanity. I'm not just saying like
- 21:18cleaning up the oceans or whatever, but
- 21:20we as people hopefully like my kids
- 21:23generation can say, "Oh, like we are a
- 21:25little bit happier and we're little bit
- 21:27less stressed uh than my generation."
- 21:30Uh, and that would be a great dream. If
- 21:31technology can achieve that, I feel like
- 21:33we're going to be in a much better
- 21:34place.