Why You Make Worse Food Choices When You're Tired | Dr. Marie-Pierre St-Onge & Dr. Andrew Huberman
Dr. Marie-Pierre St-Onge and Dr. Andrew Huberman discuss the impact of sleep restriction on metabolic health and weight gain, highlighting how losing just 90...
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Sleep Loss & Overeating
- 00:00I think there's some subconscious need
- 00:02to to eat more when you're sleepd
- 00:05deprived. There's also, you know,
- 00:07there's a thermic effect of of food,
- 00:09right? So, it gives you a jolt of energy
- 00:10to eat something. People know that you
- 00:13eat it wakes you up in a way. You know,
- 00:16neuronal signaling that that enhances uh
- 00:21pleasurable and reward centers of the
- 00:23brain where you know when also fatigue
- 00:26sits in and now it's like do you really
- 00:28want to have this conversation with
- 00:30yourself about what to choose at the
- 00:32buffet table? you know, there's fatigue
- 00:36and uh and others have shown also that
- 00:39sleepiness tends to correlate with all
- 00:42of this that there's these triggers for
- 00:45more pleasurable food consumption with
- 00:48um with sleep restriction and it's been
- 00:50reproduced. There's been so many studies
- 00:52uh and they all you know agree to to the
- 00:56extent of overeating you know a meta
- 00:58analysis showed 250 to 400 calories of
- 01:02overeating
- 01:03which might not sound like much but when
- 01:04you start layering that in day after day
- 01:06and you think you know 3500 excess
- 01:09calories more or less for a pound of
- 01:11body weight and then you start when
- 01:12people accumulate that over time
- 01:14if they're in a night shift condition or
- 01:17new parents or tending to a sick
- 01:19relative were just final exams like it
- 01:22it's a real thing.
- 01:23It's a real thing. Uh Neymar Kovson in
- 01:25uh 2022 published a paper where uh they
- 01:29had sleep restriction about 5 hours per
- 01:31night versus 7 and 1 half hours per
- 01:34night for two weeks and participants
- 01:36gained half a kilo in a twoe period. So
- 01:39you do nothing and you just you know
- 01:41sleep less and gain gain almost a pound
- 01:45in two weeks. It strikes me that, you
- 01:47know, for a long time in the stress
- 01:49research, the idea was when people are
- 01:51stressed, they reach for kind of quote
- 01:52unquote comfort foods, carbohydrate, and
- 01:55typically starch fat, starch fat, sugar
- 01:58combination foods to comfort them. And
Role of Cortisol
- 02:00and the the just so story was always
- 02:02that uh okay, well, you know, cortisol's
- 02:05main role is to deploy glucose and so
- 02:07people are doing this as a way to bring
- 02:09excess energy and and it all kind of
- 02:11fits together. What is the relationship
- 02:14between these forms of sleep deprivation
- 02:15that you work on and stress? Is it
- 02:18really a way of of I'm not saying just
- 02:20inducing stress because I think sleep is
- 02:21its own thing, but it's stressful
- 02:24just to be less than adequately rested
- 02:27independent of the things coming at you
- 02:29in life,
- 02:29right? Is what you're studying stress.
- 02:32So if you're thinking about
- 02:33physiological stress measured by
- 02:35cortisol levels in that study, actually
- 02:37cortisol wasn't changed
- 02:39in the short sleep. in the short sleep.
- 02:41Tell me more about that. I'm fascinated
- 02:43by circadian rhythms and cortisol. So,
- 02:45what does what does that what does that
- 02:46mean?
- 02:47There was no difference between the two
- 02:48conditions, the adequate sleep or short
- 02:50sleep on cortisol levels
- 02:52for 5 days of sleep restriction at
- 02:54basically 4 hours a night.
- 02:55So, cortisol is still peaking at in the
- 02:57in the morning, still dropping in the
- 02:59evening.
- 03:00Yeah.
- 03:01Wow. That's very surprising to me.
- 03:03I don't know I don't know if it's the
- 03:04context of you know being in a lab where
- 03:08everything's safe taken care of for them
- 03:11there's nothing outside to aggravate
- 03:15this so I don't know maybe when you're
- 03:17in the context of sleep restriction but
- 03:20also dealing with your daily life
- 03:24you needing to take care of your kids
- 03:26needing to get to work needing to do all
- 03:28the activities of daily living maybe
- 03:30then that becomes you know the the added
- 03:33stressful Oh,
- 03:34so the message is if you suffer less
- 03:38than adequate sleep, get someone to take
- 03:40care of everything else. You better be
- 03:42in a spa. Exactly. Exactly. No, I and
- 03:45I'm not challenging the result. I just
- 03:46find it really interesting. I would have
- 03:48thought that basil cortisol levels would
- 03:49would go ary.
- 03:50Well, in that study also, we didn't see
- 03:52any effect on glucose or insulin.
- 03:55Nothing. Nothing. The curves were
- 03:59superimposable.
- 04:01while
- 04:02they were eating the exact same food at
- 04:05the exact same time, exact same
- 04:08quantity. The only thing we changed was
- 04:11the amount of sleep opportunity they got
- 04:13at night. So to me, this means that it's
Metabolic Impacts in Daily Life
- 04:16a combination of different things that
- 04:18causes the metabolic abnormalities that
- 04:20we notice in free living populations.
- 04:23People aren't isolated. They're not in a
- 04:25box where they're not sleeping enough
- 04:28and they're choosing to eat higher fat,
- 04:31higher sugar, higher salt, poor diet
- 04:36that then triggers a worsening and may
- 04:39be compounded by the lack of sleep, even
- 04:42worsening of of those cardioabolic
- 04:45outcomes because we did a follow-up
- 04:47study to this uh this severe sleep
- 04:49restriction study. So the reason why we
- 04:51did that was because exactly for this
- 04:53reason because we did not find any
- 04:56adverse impact on glucose or insulin or
- 04:59lipid profile. And we're like so what is
- 05:02it then? Why is it that in population
- 05:04based studies we find that people who
- 05:07sleep too little have higher risk of
- 05:11cardiovascular disease, higher risk of
- 05:12hypertension, higher blood pressure,
- 05:14higher uh risk of type two diabetes. So,
- 05:18because we had seen that food choices
- 05:21were different, that they ate a diet
- 05:23that was higher in calories, higher uh
- 05:26in fat and saturated fat, we thought
- 05:28maybe if you're in a free living
- 05:30situation,
- 05:32that's when you start to see those
- 05:34cardio metabolic outcomes because it's
- 05:36compounded by maybe uh more sedentary
- 05:39behavior and alterations in in uh food
- 05:44choices and and diet.
- 05:46So the follow-up study then was to
- 05:49recruit good sleepers, people who sleep
- 05:52at least seven hours per night, verified
- 05:54by ecttoraphy, who answer on
- 05:56questionnaires that their sleep quality
- 05:59is good. And then to take these people
- 06:02and say, "Okay, now you're either going
- 06:05to continue your excellent sleep or
- 06:11you're going to now go to bed an hour
- 06:14and a half later so that you get an hour
- 06:16and a half reduction in sleep." Because
- 06:18when we screen people to sleep at least
- 06:217 hours per night, they sleep about 7
- 06:23and 1/2. and reducing by an hour and a
- 06:26half gets to 6 hours which is short
- 06:29sleep insufficient
- 06:31on average what people who don't get
- 06:33enough sleep get
- 06:34they're missing a full sleep cycle
Long Term Health Consequences
- 06:36yeah pretty much and uh and they can
- 06:39sustain that for prolonged periods
- 06:41because that's what people report in in
- 06:44population based studies and now when we
- 06:46did that we saw that insulin resistance
- 06:50was increased after 6 weeks of sleep
- 06:54restrict iction compared to adequate
- 06:55sleep. We saw insulin sensitivity was
- 06:58reduced. It was worse actually in
- 07:01post-menopausal women compared to
- 07:03premenopausal women. We saw blood
- 07:05pressure uh was increased. Uh so those
- 07:08cardabolic outcomes were adversely
- 07:10impacted in freel mild sustained sleep
- 07:14restriction for 6 weeks. 6 weeks was
- 07:17something else also. It was it was
- 07:20tough.