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The Strategy That Turned a Dying $1.3B Company Into a $100M AI Agent | Intercom, Eoghan McCabe

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Intercom hit $50M in ARR faster than any SaaS company since Salesforce did. Then AI upended the model, and founder and CEO Eoghan McCabe got seriously ill an...

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  1. Intro

  2. 00:00I would wake up some days in 2020 and I
  3. 00:03couldn't see. I think I'm dying. I don't
  4. 00:05know why. That was about when revenue
  5. 00:07started to slow too. Startups are so
  6. 00:11hard, so unlikely to work. Particularly
  7. 00:14now with AI, there's never a point where
  8. 00:15you could stop reinventing and stop
  9. 00:18reacting to the market. If you get
  10. 00:20comfortable and complacent, someone else
  11. 00:22will catch up and eat your lunch. It
  12. 00:24only works when the CEO was willing to
  13. 00:27risk at all to make giant changes. I
  14. 00:31acted very unilaterally. I did not look
  15. 00:34for much input. I ignored a lot of
  16. 00:37advice. We'd actually like switch off
  17. 00:40revenue for parts of the business. Very
  18. 00:43few people and boards and stakeholders
  19. 00:45are willing to do that. Very few people.
  20. 00:47So that's the secret. You must be
  21. 00:49willing to work like a startup founder.
  22. 00:51Startup founder doesn't have anything to
  23. 00:53lose. So they act like they've got
  24. 00:54nothing to lose. I'm only the CEO and
  25. 00:58founder of Intercom. Well, we're a
  26. 00:5914-year-old company. Did very well in
  27. 01:02the SAS game. Our big big big bet and
  28. 01:06push right now is on Finn. Finn is a
  29. 01:08service agent turning into a customer
  30. 01:10agent. Really the goal of Finn is to own
  31. 01:12the entire customer life cycle. We're
  32. 01:14one of the largest private software
  33. 01:15companies in the world.

  34. An Irish founder’s American dream

  35. 01:24I was a dreamer. I watched TV shows
  36. 01:26about inventors and scientists. There
  37. 01:29was two shows I watched. One was called
  38. 01:31Beyond 2000 and one was called
  39. 01:33Tomorrow's World. And in the early '9s,
  40. 01:36the future was still very bright. There
  41. 01:39was so much excitement and optimism for
  42. 01:42what technology would bring to the
  43. 01:43world. And everyone was just, yeah,
  44. 01:46really eager for what may come. So these
  45. 01:48shows were about flying cars, about a
  46. 01:50future where we may get all our
  47. 01:52nutrition from eating little tablets. It
  48. 01:54was like fantastical kind of things and
  49. 01:56that really just inspired me and just
  50. 01:59fed my imagination. And so yeah, I knew
  51. 02:01I wanted to be in technology. I wanted
  52. 02:03to be an inventor. What was most
  53. 02:05exciting about the internet was
  54. 02:06abilities that afforded people to
  55. 02:08connect with others across the world. I
  56. 02:11grew up in Ireland in a small little
  57. 02:14part of Ireland. Like a lot of Irish
  58. 02:15people and a lot of people around the
  59. 02:16world longed for America because all of
  60. 02:18our culture, all of our movies was
  61. 02:20American. And the internet was a little
  62. 02:22way for me to connect with America,
  63. 02:25American people. My future, I wanted it
  64. 02:28to be about creating technology, somehow
  65. 02:32playing a part and being useful. And
  66. 02:34there was something about the internet
  67. 02:35that really drew me in, offered me an
  68. 02:37opportunity to connect with people in
  69. 02:39the wider world and get outside of my
  70. 02:41little part of Ireland. The story of

  71. The record-breaking rise of Intercom

  72. 02:43Intercom was one of many challenges,
  73. 02:47many dark days, a lot of anxiety and
  74. 02:50fear over whether or not the thing we're
  75. 02:52building is valid. Will it all work out?
  76. 02:55We're the fastest to go from 1 to 50
  77. 02:59million air or since Salesforce. We did
  78. 03:01it in two and a half years. These days
  79. 03:05that's nothing. You know, in the AI
  80. 03:07days, there's people hitting up 100
  81. 03:09million in a year in some crazy crazy
  82. 03:12cases. But back in the good old SAS
  83. 03:15days, one of 150 million or in 2 and 1/2
  84. 03:18years was pretty damn good. But in some
  85. 03:21ways, this crazy growth that happens to
  86. 03:25you can leave you a little complacent.
  87. 03:27That's something that the current crop
  88. 03:29of founders need to watch out for, which
  89. 03:30is that they shouldn't take their
  90. 03:32revenue growth for granted. They should
  91. 03:34learn to understand where it's coming
  92. 03:35from. This hot brilliant start certainly
  93. 03:38did wonders for my ego and insecurities.
  94. 03:41The one of 50 million or in 2 and 1/2
  95. 03:44years or whatever it was, faster than
  96. 03:45every other company but Salesforce, I
  97. 03:47felt great. But when revenue growth
  98. 03:50started to slow, I made some mistakes
  99. 03:52with our pricing. I felt the opposite of
  100. 03:54great. That was a real reality check for
  101. 03:57me. The only way I knew how to deal with

  102. Waking Up to a Dark Blur

  103. 04:00it was embrace the darkness a little. I
  104. 04:03didn't know I was following this wisdom,
  105. 04:05but I was starting to believe like, oh,
  106. 04:07maybe I'm not so great. Maybe I am a
  107. 04:11failure. Maybe all this hubus and
  108. 04:13confidence was actually. And
  109. 04:16thankfully after really going to that
  110. 04:20darker place, I found my ego softened
  111. 04:24and my identity as this perfect
  112. 04:26entrepreneur and CEO faded and what was
  113. 04:29left was a far more realistic
  114. 04:33person who was comfortable with his
  115. 04:34mistakes. It gave me the confidence to
  116. 04:38lead with without worrying about what
  117. 04:41might come next. then learning to love
  118. 04:43my imperfections and then moving forward
  119. 04:46and embracing the imperfections, finding
  120. 04:48that I'm just so much happier and better
  121. 04:50at what I do now that I'm happy and
  122. 04:52perfect.
  123. 04:56I left as CEO in 2020 when I was sick
  124. 04:59and during the couple years that I was
  125. 05:01gone, there really was no strategy. We
  126. 05:03raised in early 2017 finally at a $ 1.25
  127. 05:07$5 billion valuation. And then I got
  128. 05:10sick in June 2018. So it was about 18
  129. 05:13months later. I found out much later
  130. 05:15that I got bitten by a tech. I would
  131. 05:18wake up some days in 2020 and I couldn't
  132. 05:21see. It was kind of like a dark blur and
  133. 05:24that was not ideal for like the emails
  134. 05:26that I would have to answer, the
  135. 05:28documents I have to work on. And
  136. 05:29eventually I was just like screw this.
  137. 05:32Enough was going wrong. I think I'm
  138. 05:34dying. I don't know why. Oh no. That was
  139. 05:37about when revenue started to slow too.
  140. 05:41Revenue growth was decelerating
  141. 05:43dramatically. The company was in a
  142. 05:45really dangerous place internally. There
  143. 05:48was a lot of focus on cultural issues,
  144. 05:51societal issues, political issues, a lot
  145. 05:54of infighting, a lot of judgment. When
  146. 05:57you're in the middle of it, in the
  147. 05:58middle of that storm, doesn't feel good,
  148. 06:00but you can't really put your finger on
  149. 06:02what's going on. But from the outside,
  150. 06:04from a bit of a distance, I could see
  151. 06:05that we can do better. Going back to
  152. 06:08basics will be very fruitful and
  153. 06:12important for the company.

  154. Killing $60M revenue to survive

  155. 06:15Our only mission is to make incredible
  156. 06:18products, make a ton of money, make
  157. 06:20us and our shareholders very, very
  158. 06:22happy, make our customers happy, too.
  159. 06:24It's not that hard. I then created a new
  160. 06:27performance management structure. We
  161. 06:29quarterly would grade every employee
  162. 06:32based not just on their work against
  163. 06:34their goals, but also their behavior
  164. 06:37against these new values. And people who
  165. 06:39were exemplary against these values,
  166. 06:42we'd pay them a ton of money, equity,
  167. 06:45bonuses, promotions. We would celebrate
  168. 06:47and prop up these people. These are the
  169. 06:49people you want to keep. And the people
  170. 06:50that didn't fit, we'd politely,
  171. 06:52graciously thank them, send them on
  172. 06:55their way with a generous uh servants
  173. 06:57payment. And you do that quarter after
  174. 06:59quarter, all the good people rise to the
  175. 07:02top. All the people who are a bad fit
  176. 07:03are gone. You very quickly end up with a
  177. 07:06very aligned, strong organization.
  178. 07:09Despite that aggression, 18 months after
  179. 07:13I instituted the new values and the new
  180. 07:16performance man management structure, we
  181. 07:18ran a anonymous employee engagement
  182. 07:21survey where all the company were
  183. 07:22allowed to rate uh the leaders including
  184. 07:25me, our values, our policies, product
  185. 07:29strategy, how much did they agree with
  186. 07:31it, how much did they disagree? For each
  187. 07:33question, there was only one or two% of
  188. 07:37the entire population of the company,
  189. 07:39about 1,200 people who disagreed with
  190. 07:42any single point. And that is a result
  191. 07:43that I haven't heard from another
  192. 07:46company, but we never even achieved at
  193. 07:47this company in the past. creating a
  194. 07:50company designed for greatness and for
  195. 07:53great people to focus and do brilliant
  196. 07:55work and allow them to make a bunch of
  197. 07:57money and accepting no distractions or
  198. 07:59makes for a very happy aligned
  199. 08:02culture. If people don't like the
  200. 08:04system, there's so many other great
  201. 08:06companies out there, including companies
  202. 08:08like Google. They're over there. We're
  203. 08:10just the one that isn't. Maybe they were
  204. 08:12not going to choose to leave this month,
  205. 08:13but they would have left eventually. And
  206. 08:15so big picture, not only are we helping
  207. 08:17ourselves, but we're setting them on
  208. 08:19their path to find something they're
  209. 08:20better aligned with. Everyone's happier
  210. 08:23when you start to be authentic and you
  211. 08:24share more about who you are and what
  212. 08:26you stand for. And that's not the
  213. 08:28typical playbook of a CEO, but the
  214. 08:30inauthenticity
  215. 08:32eventually seeps out and people start to
  216. 08:34question you and not trust you. Truth,
  217. 08:36honesty, authenticity
  218. 08:39um is the way forward. Some of the great

  219. How legacy companies avoid getting left behind

  220. 08:42software brands of the previous
  221. 08:43generation now have kind of lost their
  222. 08:45way, their focus. Some of them are in
  223. 08:47negative growth territory. The painful
  224. 08:49reality for technology companies, for
  225. 08:51people who would start them, is that
  226. 08:54particularly now with AI, there's never
  227. 08:55a point where you can stop reinventing
  228. 08:59and stop reacting to the market. If you
  229. 09:01get comfortable and complacent, someone
  230. 09:03else will catch up and eat your lunch.
  231. 09:05And so part of our secret for how we've
  232. 09:07dramatically reacelerated now is that we
  233. 09:09brought back that focus and that
  234. 09:10ruthlessness and it really paid off. It
  235. 09:14only works when the CEO is willing to
  236. 09:17risk it all. When they have full moral
  237. 09:19authority from all their stakeholders
  238. 09:22and their board to make giant changes,
  239. 09:25dramatic, aggressive, violent changes.
  240. 09:29Because if they instead are trying to
  241. 09:31optimize for not rocking the boat, not
  242. 09:34damaging old revenue, they will just
  243. 09:36stay on the trajectory that they had
  244. 09:38been on. I actually decided that many
  245. 09:41tens of millions, I think something like
  246. 09:4360 million ore, we'd actually give away
  247. 09:46over a number of years. We'd actually
  248. 09:48like switch off revenue for parts of the
  249. 09:51business so that we could focus on other
  250. 09:53ones. We focused on some specific parts
  251. 09:56of the business and then introduced this
  252. 09:57AI element which brought epic revenue
  253. 10:00growth there. There was other parts of
  254. 10:02the business where revenue growth was
  255. 10:04negative for a while. Very few people
  256. 10:07and boards and stakeholders are willing
  257. 10:09to do that. Very few people particularly
  258. 10:13professional CEOs who are hired to not
  259. 10:16break things. So that's the secret. The
  260. 10:18process of reinvention and rebirth is
  261. 10:21highly destructive as well as
  262. 10:23constructive. You have to be willing to
  263. 10:25crack a lot of eggs. For younger

  264. Eoghan’s ultimate advice for founders

  265. 10:27founders, I think what's important is to
  266. 10:29test your instinct. Don't be unafraid to
  267. 10:31just go with your gut and try it out cuz
  268. 10:33you won't calibrate against it or learn
  269. 10:35about it until you're unless you're
  270. 10:37trying it. And if you find yourself
  271. 10:39entirely unable to make decisions on
  272. 10:42your own, you're not a founder. Cuz the
  273. 10:44thing that typifies founders is that
  274. 10:46they are willing to bet on themselves.
  275. 10:49When AI came and we started to build
  276. 10:51Finn, which is our AI agent, we realized
  277. 10:53that because the agent does the work
  278. 10:55that the humans do, that the humans are
  279. 10:57not going to need the software they use
  280. 10:59to do the work. That these agents were
  281. 11:02highly disruptive to our existing
  282. 11:04business. We saw as a threat and an
  283. 11:07opportunity. We really didn't have any
  284. 11:09choice. Now, we had the benefit of the
  285. 11:14fact that our business was not doing so
  286. 11:16well. So, we needed an opportunity. The
  287. 11:19worst positioned CEOs and companies were
  288. 11:22those who were unfocused, but they were
  289. 11:24doing kind of okay. If you're doing kind
  290. 11:26of okay, there's less room to get crazy
  291. 11:28and take big risks. But if you're kind
  292. 11:30of not doing so well, everyone's like,
  293. 11:33"All right, you've got a plan. We need a
  294. 11:35plan. Go for it." So, we jumped on this
  295. 11:37and spent as much money as we could
  296. 11:39because of the opportunity, the risk,
  297. 11:41and we really needed a new a new
  298. 11:42direction. It was actually controversial
  299. 11:45when we said, "We're going to bet a
  300. 11:46million dollars of our own money on
  301. 11:48pivoting to AI." It was controversial
  302. 11:50back then, but I think that the couple
  303. 11:53years since then have proven us right.
  304. 11:56The future really is humans plus AI. I
  305. 11:59don't want to be polyianish or just
  306. 12:01imagine this bright, glistening, perfect
  307. 12:04world. There will be change and some of
  308. 12:06the change will be hard. But we've
  309. 12:08always continued to flourish. Even while
  310. 12:10technology has put people out of work,
  311. 12:12the work it's taken has been the most
  312. 12:15repetitive, demeaning, dangerous work,
  313. 12:18technology has always complemented
  314. 12:21humanity and made us uh better. Yeah.
  315. 12:25Within my little little world of
  316. 12:27customer experience, I want to make sure
  317. 12:28we do that, too. Startups are so hard,
  318. 12:32so unlikely to work. If you're working
  319. 12:34to solve a problem that can't be solved
  320. 12:37in an incredibly new way with a
  321. 12:40brilliant product, you need a new idea
  322. 12:41and a new approach. People can
  323. 12:43understand a problem but not have the
  324. 12:46ingenuity required to build an excellent
  325. 12:49product or have that taste. where people
  326. 12:51can have brilliant tastes and be expert
  327. 12:55crafts people, build incredibly elegant
  328. 12:58interfaces, but not actually understand
  329. 13:01deeply a giant problem that needs to be
  330. 13:04solved. Great founders can marry those
  331. 13:06two things together. And that's actually
  332. 13:08really rare. It's far more rare than the
  333. 13:11number of startups that are out there
  334. 13:13being funded right now.
  335. 13:16Life is short. People want to be around
  336. 13:19and inspired by people who are
  337. 13:21themselves inspired. Think about periods
  338. 13:23in your life, even when you've not
  339. 13:24considered working for someone. When
  340. 13:26someone themselves is excited, it's
  341. 13:27infectious. But when they're happy, it's
  342. 13:29infectious. And people want to feel that
  343. 13:32passion and an ability to share that
  344. 13:34authentically is the secret to great
  345. 13:37leadership in my opinion. There's no
  346. 13:39great founder that hasn't gone through
  347. 13:40these struggles. I have had moments of
  348. 13:44severe darkness, embarrassment, regret,
  349. 13:47selfhate, and now I look back at them
  350. 13:49and I'm like, I mean, it was at the
  351. 13:52time, but it's part of my story now. And
  352. 13:54so, yeah, I just think that a lot of
  353. 13:56these difficulties are just part of the
  354. 13:58adventure and will eventually stand to
  355. 14:00you one way or another. But I'd say
  356. 14:02believe in yourself more. Follow your
  357. 14:04gut. You've got good instinct. Maybe
  358. 14:06you're wrong one in five or 10 times,
  359. 14:09but the other times are really light,
  360. 14:10right? Listen to yourself. Stop
  361. 14:13overthinking. Stop overrationalizing.
  362. 14:15Stop trying to come up with the right
  363. 14:18solution as verified by every
  364. 14:20stakeholder and everyone on your team
  365. 14:21and everyone on your board. Go with your
  366. 14:23gut. Do what you think is right. Have
  367. 14:26the bravery to bet on yourself.