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He Built a $5.5B Legal AI Company by 26 | Legora, Max Junestrand

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He didn’t come from law. He didn’t come from code.He started Legora at 23 and built it into a $5.5 billion company before turning 26.In this interview, Max J...

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  1. Intro

  2. 00:00Over the past 2 years, we've grown from
  3. 00:02three engineers in Stockholm, zero
  4. 00:04clients, and now over 750 clients, 300
  5. 00:07people, more than doubled every single
  6. 00:09quarter.
  7. 00:10This is only a few months after you just
  8. 00:11raised your previous series. What are
  9. 00:14you going to be doing this using this
  10. 00:15money for?
  11. 00:15I think the reality is that this market
  12. 00:17has only done 0 to 1. Now we are on the
  13. 00:20journey of 1 to 10 and 10 to 100 and
  14. 00:23there's so much left to build.
  15. 00:25So when I think about our space, we're
  16. 00:26still on the starting line. We can't be
  17. 00:29fast followers. We got to be the
  18. 00:31innovators.
  19. 00:33Hi, I'm Max. I'm [music] the CEO and
  20. 00:34co-founder of Lora. Lora is the platform
  21. 00:38where legal work happens. We solve legal
  22. 00:40tasks with the help of AI in the mission
  23. 00:42of creating [music] 10x lawyers.

  24. From Zero to $5.5B in 2 Years

  25. 00:52So I think for me without competition
  26. 00:55there is no excitement. don't get
  27. 00:58stressed being in a competitive
  28. 00:59environment. I get energy from it. I
  29. 01:02grew up in Sweden in the Swedish
  30. 01:04archipelago. It was a small community
  31. 01:06where I didn't get enough competition.
  32. 01:08[music]
  33. 01:08So, I got very interested both in sports
  34. 01:10and in video games. I used to compete in
  35. 01:13this video game called Dota 2. [music]
  36. 01:14Having gone through that very
  37. 01:16competitive environment, I wanted to
  38. 01:17take some of that with me to college.
  39. 01:19Gaming a lot for me back in those days
  40. 01:22taught me that if you want to be great,
  41. 01:23you have to grind. It's not enough to
  42. 01:26just play more hours. You got to play
  43. 01:28smarter and you got to learn more. You
  44. 01:30have to bring a level of intensity
  45. 01:33better than anybody else. In Dota,
  46. 01:35you're five players on one team. That
  47. 01:37group of five people have to collaborate
  48. 01:39seamlessly to reach the right goals
  49. 01:42together. I think some of my leadership
  50. 01:44style is probably influenced by some of
  51. 01:47the early gaming working with
  52. 01:49individuals who in many aspects I find
  53. 01:52much smarter than myself. I think that
  54. 01:54is a a core job of of a CEO to be able
  55. 01:57to attract people within all different
  56. 01:59types of fields who bring skill sets
  57. 02:00that you don't have and then you got to
  58. 02:02make the band play together and then
  59. 02:04when they start to work together
  60. 02:06something new unlocks and we're playing
  61. 02:09what I like to call the the infinite
  62. 02:11game both on a product level but also on
  63. 02:14a company level. So today we're going to
  64. 02:17focus on what matters most to all of
  65. 02:19you, which is making it easier and more
  66. 02:22effective for your teams [music] to work
  67. 02:24with AI. So when I think about our
  68. 02:26space, as I said, it really feels like
  69. 02:28we're still on the starting line despite
  70. 02:31having grown the company from zero to
  71. 02:33unicorn. We've done 0 to one and now
  72. 02:36there's journey of 1 to 10 and then 10
  73. 02:39to 100 left to do. So one of the things
  74. 02:42that made the legal industry very
  75. 02:46attractive to us was that there were so
  76. 02:48many problems, meaningful problems to go
  77. 02:52and solve. I think incredibly important
  78. 02:53for Luora since the very beginning has
  79. 02:55been to grow together with our
  80. 02:57customers. We were incubated in the
  81. 02:59biggest law firm in Sweden, Manheatling.
  82. 03:02They were generous enough with their
  83. 03:04early time and space. We actually got
  84. 03:06conference room in their office. When I
  85. 03:09was doing a demo, I would ask the users
  86. 03:12to take, you know, maybe one of their
  87. 03:13old memos or or part of of a case that
  88. 03:16they had worked on, upload it into the
  89. 03:18system, and then ask Legua to do a first
  90. 03:20draft of it. When they saw the results,
  91. 03:23I mean, it was kind of a, you know, you
  92. 03:25know, leaning back, drop the chin
  93. 03:27moment. I think those types of
  94. 03:29experiences breeds momentum and gives
  95. 03:31you a lot of energy to keep moving
  96. 03:33forward even faster.

  97. The Secret Behind Hypergrowth

  98. 03:38We had a couple of different options. We
  99. 03:39could have raised money from European
  100. 03:41visas. We had a couple of term sheets.
  101. 03:43Or we could accept the offer to join Y
  102. 03:45Cominator and go to San Francisco. Did
  103. 03:47we have to do YC? I don't know. Because
  104. 03:49we had so much business already growing
  105. 03:52in Europe. But what attracted us of
  106. 03:54going to SF was Sweden is a small
  107. 03:57ecosystem and so if we want to play in
  108. 04:00the big leagues, we need to be in the
  109. 04:01States. If we are going to do this
  110. 04:03thing, let's be the best at it. I didn't
  111. 04:05want to [music] bring sort of
  112. 04:07complacency into my into my job. I want
  113. 04:09to do things and I want to be the best
  114. 04:11at it and I want to do really hard
  115. 04:12things. We wanted a foot in the door
  116. 04:15towards the the American market. I mean
  117. 04:17we went from zero to almost a million
  118. 04:19ARR in like a month and a half during Y
  119. 04:22Combinator and a big reason for that was
  120. 04:25because I was spending a majority of my
  121. 04:27time still [music] in Europe. I tried to
  122. 04:29make it work from San Francisco. I
  123. 04:31bought this uh ring light shine on my
  124. 04:34face when I took calls between [music]
  125. 04:361:00 a.m. and 10:00 a.m. over the night
  126. 04:38towards uh the other side of the world.
  127. 04:40So I think for LEGO, it's incredibly
  128. 04:42important to be where our customers are.
  129. 04:44And so when we think about both serving
  130. 04:46them on the ground, but also tuning the
  131. 04:48product to their needs, it's just a
  132. 04:49mustave. So when we entered the US
  133. 04:52market, we really wanted to make sure
  134. 04:54that who we work with in the US as our
  135. 04:56first set of clients are excellent
  136. 04:58[music]
  137. 04:59lawyers, excellent law firms, but also
  138. 05:02carry a lot of weight in the market and
  139. 05:04we were very lucky in contact with clear
  140. 05:06[music] got and also Goodwin and
  141. 05:08Proctor. I think with both those two
  142. 05:10firms there was a lot of alignment in
  143. 05:12what they want to achieve with AI and
  144. 05:15how Legora can help them get there. We
  145. 05:17had alignment and then it was, you know,
  146. 05:18time to go. After that, we quickly
  147. 05:21opened an office here in Manhattan.
  148. 05:22We're at a much much scrappier uh place
  149. 05:25than what we're in today. I handled I
  150. 05:27think the first 30 law firms and
  151. 05:29in-house teams coming onto the platform
  152. 05:31with all the onboardings. The learnings
  153. 05:32[music] that we took from those early
  154. 05:34days is that you only get one shot.
  155. 05:37Lawyers are so busy that you don't get a
  156. 05:40second chance onboarding them on the
  157. 05:41product. So it has to work has to be it
  158. 05:44can't break and the use cases need to
  159. 05:45work and it need to solve and you need
  160. 05:47to do a good job of setting the
  161. 05:48expectations of what the product can do
  162. 05:51today versus what the product will be
  163. 05:53able to do a week from now, a quarter
  164. 05:55from now, a year from now. They
  165. 05:57understand that not only is this tech
  166. 05:59sort of here to stay, it is the way that
  167. 06:02work will be done. They want to get on
  168. 06:04the train, they want their voices to be
  169. 06:06heard and they want to have a say in
  170. 06:08what that future looks like. [music] And
  171. 06:10that is awesome. That is not something
  172. 06:12that we take for granted. My favorite
  173. 06:14accomplishment so far is frankly just
  174. 06:16reading through our customer love Slack
  175. 06:18channel where we collect feedback and
  176. 06:21aggregated usage of the real impact that
  177. 06:23the product is having for the people
  178. 06:25that we serve. There's nothing as
  179. 06:27rewarding, at least for me, as when
  180. 06:30people that we serve let us know we've
  181. 06:33made their day better or we've helped
  182. 06:35their business in some way. they were
  183. 06:37able to finish a piece of work and get
  184. 06:39home to their families to see their kids
  185. 06:40before they went to bed. I think the
  186. 06:42focus on let's deliver the most value
  187. 06:46for our users. Other problems sort of
  188. 06:49around that seems to solve itself.

  189. Be Your Own Best Boss

  190. 06:54Well, so as you can see, we're we're in
  191. 06:55our new space here in New York and
  192. 06:57there's quite a few uh empty desks here
  193. 06:59behind me. We're growing super
  194. 07:01aggressively across, you know, all
  195. 07:02different teams. I think we're gonna
  196. 07:04have filled almost all of this before
  197. 07:06summer this year. The team is about 300
  198. 07:08people today spread across several
  199. 07:09offices in Denver, New York, London,
  200. 07:12Stockholm, India, Sydney. So, I think
  201. 07:14the hardest part for me growing the
  202. 07:16company from 3 to 300 was that your role
  203. 07:20probably changes the [music] fastest.
  204. 07:22You cannot be married to the way that
  205. 07:25things were done or to what you're
  206. 07:27doing. You just got to wake up every day
  207. 07:29and think about how do I optimize for
  208. 07:31the business today? and maybe a month, a
  209. 07:34quarter, a year out. And those are the
  210. 07:36decisions you have to take. You need to
  211. 07:38be your own best boss. And you have to
  212. 07:41be very disciplined [music] about not
  213. 07:43working on the easy things, but working
  214. 07:46on the really hard things. [music] And I
  215. 07:48think it's your responsibility as the
  216. 07:49founder and as the CEO to keep the
  217. 07:51company focused. We can't be fast
  218. 07:53followers. [music] We got to be the
  219. 07:55innovators.
  220. 07:56Most importantly, it's how do you scale
  221. 07:59and continue to [music] keep the
  222. 08:00culture? You know, I have some ideas
  223. 08:02around that. I I take a very active part
  224. 08:04in in our recruiting. Still interview
  225. 08:06everyone who joins the company. One of
  226. 08:08the things that I look for in in
  227. 08:09everyone that we hire and I think how
  228. 08:11much capacity does this person have to
  229. 08:14grow? Tell me about the hardest problem
  230. 08:15that you worked on. [music] What was
  231. 08:17that problem? What did you directly
  232. 08:19contribute to solving that problem? And
  233. 08:21and how would you do it differently
  234. 08:23[music] if you had to go back to that
  235. 08:24problem today? Because I think the
  236. 08:26ability to learn from the way that you
  237. 08:29approach a problem the first time to the
  238. 08:30time that you have to approach a problem
  239. 08:32the second time is [music]
  240. 08:34super important. The most important
  241. 08:35skill that you need to bring to the
  242. 08:37table. And then I always look for a
  243. 08:38sense of ambition. We're looking for
  244. 08:40people who want to take responsibility
  245. 08:42of the outcome of the company. The
  246. 08:44outcome that we deliver in the market.
  247. 08:47That value has probably been the most
  248. 08:49important part of of helping us go from
  249. 08:51where we were to where we are today.
  250. 08:54If I were to give some advice to myself
  251. 08:57starting out again, you need to really
  252. 08:59be excited about what you're doing
  253. 09:01because [music] if it goes well, you're
  254. 09:03going to be working so hard and you're
  255. 09:05going to be focused on these problems
  256. 09:07for such an intense [music] period. I
  257. 09:10wake up every day and I'm thinking about
  258. 09:12how do we deliver more value and how do
  259. 09:14we make Legora a more successful
  260. 09:15business. I think had we picked, you
  261. 09:17know, maybe something we weren't as
  262. 09:18excited about, that would have been much
  263. 09:20harder. [music] you know, I I can't wait
  264. 09:22have a town hall in Q1 of 2027, see the
  265. 09:26size and and see what we've accomplished
  266. 09:29by then because if you would have told
  267. 09:31me that we would, [music] you know, be
  268. 09:32sitting here Q1 of 2026 back at the
  269. 09:35start of 2025, I would have never
  270. 09:36believed you. So, yeah, I think there's
  271. 09:38uh there's a lot to be excited about.
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