How to Prepare for & Recover From Surgery | Dr. Andrew Huberman
Dr. Andrew Huberman discusses how to optimize preparation for and recovery from major surgery, focusing on pre-surgical fitness, light exposure to support ci...
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Kidney Donation Recovery Question
- 00:00Hello, my name's Kelly and I had a
- 00:02question about recovering from a kidney
- 00:05donation surgery
- 00:07and what you can do following the
- 00:10surgery to retain as much muscle mass as
- 00:14possible during that recovery time. Um,
- 00:17also if there's anything you would do
- 00:19beforehand to increase the odds of
- 00:24less loss
- 00:26in that post-surgical time period. Thank
- 00:29you very much.
- 00:31Well, thank you for your question,
- 00:33Kelly, and really thank you for uh the
- 00:37incredible um act that you're uh that
- 00:41you're asking about a kidney donation. I
- 00:44mean, these things save lives. Gosh,
- 00:46there aren't even words for it. I mean,
- 00:47to give a kidney to save somebody's
- 00:48life, what a wonderful and remarkable
- 00:51thing. So, thank you so much for that.
- 00:53What a beautiful example of uh humans
- 00:56helping humans.
- 00:58how to best go into and recover from any
- 01:01surgery and in particular this one. The
Pre-Surgery Fitness Preparation
- 01:05short answer is go into it as fit and
- 01:09rested as you possibly can. Now, life
- 01:12constraints will determine what that
- 01:13means for you, but it's very clear and
- 01:16in particular if you're thinking about
- 01:19maintaining muscle and maintaining
- 01:21general fitness and speed of recovery,
- 01:24that having your strength and your
- 01:26cardiovascular health as good as it can
- 01:28be heading into the procedure. And that
- 01:31also means not exhausting yourself or
- 01:32injuring yourself by overtraining is
- 01:36going to be immensely beneficial. And I
- 01:38can say this because I have several
- 01:39friends who are surgeons that will say
- 01:41to me always, you know, that the
- 01:43athletes that come in, even if they're
- 01:45dealing with major surgeries, even if
- 01:47they're not proathletes, they're just
- 01:48sort of, you know, recreational athletes
- 01:51always recover faster. Why? Well, their
- 01:53metabolic health is better, their
- 01:55circulation is better, and yes, they
- 01:57probably also are used to pushing into
- 01:59challenge and coming out of surgery um
- 02:01can be challenging. I've had surgeries
- 02:03before and I can tell you that it's
- 02:04always striking to me how absolutely
- 02:08dreadful I would feel coming out of it.
- 02:11You know, 2 3 days I was like, "Oh my
- 02:14god, I don't know how I'm ever." And
- 02:16then 5 days later like, "Wow, I can't
- 02:18believe how quickly I've healed." And I
- 02:20don't consider myself a, you know, any
- 02:22kind of serious athlete. I mean, I'm
- 02:24athletic. I exercise and so forth. Um,
- 02:26those surgeries were when I was younger
- 02:28from broken bones and things like that.
- 02:30So, they weren't nearly as intense and
- 02:32invasive as as what you're asking about
- 02:34here. But have your cardiovascular
- 02:36fitness um in place if you have time
- 02:39before this surgery. So great time to do
- 02:41and I imagine you might be doing any
- 02:43number of things that I'm about to
- 02:44describe but perhaps more as well but as
- 02:47we talked about earlier at least one
- 02:49long slow distance you know of about 45
- 02:51minutes to an hour zone two three-ish
- 02:54cardio per week um some highintensity
- 02:56interval training at least once per week
- 02:58maybe maybe twice and something more
- 03:00moderate in the middle kind of moderate
- 03:02intensity of about 30 minutes or so and
- 03:05some strength training for both the
- 03:06lower body and the upper body pro most
- 03:09probably on days other than the
- 03:11cardiovascular training, two to three
- 03:13days per week. And again, not
- 03:15overtraining, right? Not pushing
- 03:17yourself to try and get so fit that
- 03:19you're exhausted because you don't want
- 03:20to go into a surgery exhausted.
- 03:23But you do want to go in getting
- 03:25adequate sleep. It's normal the night
- 03:27before a big surgery to perhaps not get
- 03:29as great sleep as you normally do.
- 03:31That's normal. I think most surgeons
- 03:33will attest to the fact that while not
- 03:35ideal, that doesn't uh, you know,
- 03:37prohibit a really great recovery either.
- 03:40It's just normal kind of pre-surgery
- 03:42anxiety is is is common. But in the days
- 03:46and weeks before the surgery, being as
- 03:47rested as possible, and here's the big
- 03:49one, both going into and out of surgery.
- 03:51And I know some of you are going to go,
- 03:52"Ah, here he is again with the sunlight
- 03:54thing." I will tell you based on a lot
- 03:56of experience visiting people in the
- 03:58hospital which was just adjacent to my
- 03:59lab at Stanford. These are people who
- 04:01are dealing with everything from cancer
- 04:03to surgery
- 04:04patients of different ages. I actually
Hospital Recovery & Sleep
- 04:06was uh I sat in on I didn't participate
- 04:10of course I'm not a surgeon uh on a
- 04:12brain surgery recently up at UCSF and
- 04:14I'll tell you in talking with the brain
- 04:16surgeons that when patients get and stay
- 04:21on a as normal as possible circadian
- 04:24rhythm coming out of surgery it helps
- 04:26immensely. There are even data showing
- 04:27that recovery from surgery and other
- 04:29illness in the hospital is significantly
- 04:32improved if the patient is next to a
- 04:33window where they get some natural
- 04:35light. If you can't do that, really
- 04:37think about eye mask at night so that
- 04:39you can get it as dark as possible. It's
- 04:41really hard in some hospitals to get it
- 04:43really dark because there's and quiet
- 04:45because there's a lot of noise from the
- 04:47equipment and people are coming in for
- 04:48the checks all night and you know you
- 04:50have the night staff. Great eye mask for
- 04:53sleeping at night. Great earplugs to
- 04:56keep it as quiet as possible so you can
- 04:58sleep on as normal as is possible for
- 05:01you schedule. If you can be positioned
- 05:03next to a window. I think if you're
- 05:04giving a kidney, they should put you
- 05:06next to a window and they should put you
- 05:07next to an east facing window. I don't
- 05:09know what hospital you're at. This
- 05:10person is giving a kidney. They deserve
- 05:12to be near a east facing window. Uh darn
- 05:15it, uh for their recovery and that will
- 05:18allow you to get on and stay on a normal
- 05:21circadian schedule or even west facing
- 05:23as we talked about earlier, get some
- 05:24ambient light in the early part of the
- 05:26day and get that outdoor time, some
- 05:28fresh air. This is going to massively
- 05:32help your overall state. It's going to
- 05:35tremendously help your sleep, which is
- 05:37going to tremendously help reduce the
- 05:39inflammation postsurgically. It's going
- 05:41to accelerate your healing and on and
- 05:43on. This circadian rhythm stuff, folks,
- 05:45is real. It is absolutely real and it is
- 05:48foundational to our health. Then in
- 05:51terms of what you can do to just get
- 05:54back the muscle that you had or maintain
- 05:57it through this period, if you have been
Regaining Muscle & Memory
- 05:59exercising and doing strength training
- 06:01and perhaps hypertrophy and strength
- 06:03training for some period of time going
- 06:04into this, you will be amazed at how
- 06:07quickly an atrophied limb or an overall
- 06:10reduction in muscle and strength comes
- 06:12back. A lot of the quote unquote muscle
- 06:14memory that we talk about is skill-based
- 06:16muscle memory. I haven't write ridden a
- 06:17bike in years, but I can still do it.
- 06:19Muscle memory. But there's the other
- 06:21kind of muscle memory, which is the
- 06:22nerve to muscle, the motor neuron to
- 06:25muscle, which controls muscular
- 06:27contractions, quote unquote memory,
- 06:29which is the reestablishment of
- 06:33strength, the reestablishment of
- 06:36hypertrophy when you had it prior. So,
- 06:39regaining strength and and muscle size
- 06:42is far easier than gaining it for the
- 06:44first time. with the one exception being
- 06:46that when you're young, if like you're
- 06:48in your late teens, early 20s, it's
- 06:51pretty easy to gain muscle fast when you
- 06:53first start uh exercising, but that
- 06:55tapers off pretty quickly after about a
- 06:57year or so. And then you have to fight
- 06:58for every bit of it. And as you get
- 06:59older, it's harder to to get stronger
- 07:01and to build muscle, but you can do it.
- 07:03Now, that's the conventional stuff. And
- 07:05even that doesn't sound that
- 07:07conventional. I'm guessing that a lot of
- 07:09doctors probably are not talking about
- 07:11this, but that's not because they don't
- 07:12talk about it. It's just it's hard to
- 07:14prescribe to a lot of patients. And in
- 07:16particular, and here I'm calling out the
- 07:18hospitals, not Stanford Hospital, but
- 07:19other hospitals. They treat people, they
- 07:24want them to heal, they want to free up
- 07:26beds, they want to send them home, but
- 07:28the environment in the hospital is not
- 07:30circadian friendly to the patients or
- 07:33the staff. It's just not. It's not the
- 07:34nature of how hospitals work. And I'm
- 07:36not just talking about the emergency
- 07:37rooms. It's just not. you know, the
- 07:40bright lights, the noises in the middle
- 07:41of the night and the lack of, you know,
- 07:44uh, natural daylight coming through and
- 07:46it has a negative impact. It really
- 07:48does, uh, at multiple levels. So, you
- 07:50have to kind of push back on on the
- 07:52system in order to try and, uh, get the
- 07:54best possible circadian environment, if
- 07:57you will. Once again, Kelly, thank you
- 07:59ever so much. You're a godsend for
- 08:01somebody out there, and we need more
- 08:04people like you. [music]
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