How to Stop Over-Optimizing Your Health | Dr. Andrew Huberman

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Dr. Andrew Huberman discusses how over-optimization and rigid adherence to health protocols can lead to stress and burnout, highlighting the importance of adaptability, consistency, and tailoring core health habits to fit individual life constraints.

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  1. Question About Protocol Overwhelm

  2. 00:00Hello Dr. Hub Berman. My name is Dr.
  3. 00:02Datillosi MD. I have a simple question
  4. 00:05about longevity and optimization
  5. 00:07culture. I've seen people be strict and
  6. 00:10diligent with their optimal protocols.
  7. 00:12However, sometimes it becomes a source
  8. 00:14of stress. When would you say longevity
  9. 00:17protocols do more bad than good if
  10. 00:19people worry about them?
  11. 00:21Oh, thank you so much, doctor. I'm just
  12. 00:23going to refer to you as doctor because
  13. 00:24forgive me I couldn't make out the
  14. 00:26pronunciation of your name and if I were
  15. 00:27to attempt it I would probably not get
  16. 00:30it right. So uh forgive me I'm just
  17. 00:32going to refer to you as doctor but I'm
  18. 00:34also going to extend my gratitude for
  19. 00:36your question again because I know a lot
  20. 00:37of people are thinking about this
  21. 00:39overoptimization question issue these
  22. 00:42days and it's a very important one. You
  23. 00:45know, I've uh spent the last six years
  24. 00:46or so talking about protocols for
  25. 00:49health, for all sorts of things on the
  26. 00:51Hubberman Lab podcast and others have of
  27. 00:54as well, of course. And the real issue I
  28. 00:57think that everyone's dealing with right
  29. 00:58now is kind of protocol overwhelm like
  30. 01:01like what am I supposed to do? I barely
  31. 01:02have time to do the basics and now
  32. 01:04we're, you know, getting right down into
  33. 01:05the details of, you know, particular
  34. 01:07mechanisms at particular times of day.
  35. 01:09Like what am I supposed to do? Here's
  36. 01:11the big picture, at least in my opinion.
  37. 01:14Optimization in its truest form is about
  38. 01:18addressing each day of your life as an
  39. 01:20independent unit and asking yourself,
  40. 01:23okay, what can I do today to set myself
  41. 01:25up for the best possible day given the
  42. 01:26constraints upon me? Right? Maybe you're
  43. 01:29dealing with a sick family member. Maybe
  44. 01:32you're dealing with jet lag. Maybe
  45. 01:34you're dealing with a deadline. You
  46. 01:36know, I've dealt with all these things,
  47. 01:37some of them recently. Maybe you're
  48. 01:39dealing with being extremely well-rested
  49. 01:42and you're on vacation and you wonder if
  50. 01:44you should just kind of take the day off
  51. 01:45and relax. These are real life issues
  52. 01:48and optimization has to meet those real
  53. 01:51life issues, not the other way around.
  54. 01:53So optimization is about stepping back
  55. 01:55and saying, okay, what are the things I
  56. 01:57really enjoy doing and that clearly give
  57. 01:59me energy, clearly make me feel better.
  58. 02:01These are the ones that are easy to do.
  59. 02:02For me, that's getting morning sunlight.
  60. 02:04It's hydrating in the morning. It's
  61. 02:06exercise. I happen to like exercise.
  62. 02:08Okay, some days more, some days less,
  63. 02:10but I happen to like it. Some people
  64. 02:11loathe it. Okay, if you like a
  65. 02:14particular protocol, you're more likely
  66. 02:16to do it. That just stands to reason.
  67. 02:19But then we also have to ask ourselves,
  68. 02:20what are the most important protocols to
  69. 02:23do consistently over time? And those are
  70. Sleep & Sunlight Pillars

  71. 02:25very straightforward. Everyone knows
  72. 02:26what those are. You want to do what you
  73. 02:27can to get the best possible sleep,
  74. 02:29enough of it, and high quality sleep.
  75. 02:31But we're all human, and it's also great
  76. 02:33to stay out late doing fun things every
  77. 02:34once in a while. perfectly fine. I do
  78. 02:37that. All of you should give yourself
  79. 02:38permission to do that. In my opinion,
  80. 02:40you will be just fine in the short and
  81. 02:43in the long term. Okay? I do believe
  82. 02:46that getting bright light in our eyes,
  83. 02:48ideally from sunlight in the first hours
  84. 02:50of the day, is one of the things to
  85. 02:52really strive for because it's so brief.
  86. 02:53It costs nothing and it is so well
  87. 02:56supported by human data to create to
  88. 02:58create, excuse me, outsized positive
  89. 03:00effects on your mental and physical
  90. 03:02health. It sets everything into its
  91. 03:04right place. But as I just talked about
  92. 03:06a few minutes ago to the previous
  93. 03:08question, if you miss it one day, no big
  94. 03:10deal. The next day, just make up for it.
  95. 03:12I do think that a neurotic approach to
  96. 03:14trying to get everything exactly right
  97. 03:17is going to harm our mental health.
  98. 03:19Maybe not severely in the short term,
  99. 03:20but in the long run, it's just going to
  100. 03:22lead to a different kind of burnout.
  101. 03:23Kind of health optimization burnout,
  102. 03:25which again is not about true
  103. 03:26optimization anyway. So we say morning
  104. 03:29sunlight, great. dimming the lights at
  105. 03:31night. These are all zerocost, very
  106. 03:33effective ways to improve our health and
  107. 03:35well-being. If you're under the bright
  108. 03:36lights at an event or doing something
  109. 03:38fun or god forbid you have to be at the
  110. 03:40hospital for a loved one or you yourself
  111. 03:41in the hospital and the lights are
  112. 03:43bright, you'll be okay. You want to try
  113. 03:46and mitigate that if you're confronted
  114. 03:47with it day after day after day. You may
  115. 03:49get an eye mask, etc. But every once in
  116. 03:52a while, no big deal. We know that
  117. 03:55hydration is critical and is very
  118. 03:57overlooked as a tool for increasing
  119. 03:59energy and well-being. This is just
  120. 04:01true, right? Most people don't think of
  121. Hydration Myths & Essentials

  122. 04:03hydration as, you know, as exciting or
  123. 04:06interesting, but it's very, very
  124. 04:07important for mental clarity, physical
  125. 04:10and mental energy. So, do that, right?
  126. 04:13People argue how much you need to drink,
  127. 04:15whether or not your urine needs to be
  128. 04:16clear or not. It doesn't, by the way,
  129. 04:18but making sure that you're getting
  130. 04:20enough fluids. And by the way, the idea
  131. 04:22that all fluids that aren't water are
  132. 04:24dehydrating you, including coffee and
  133. 04:26caffeine, the literature just doesn't
  134. 04:27support that. I do think you should
  135. 04:29drink some just good old water every
  136. 04:31once in a while, but if you're getting a
  137. 04:32lot of your liquids from, you know, I
  138. 04:34drink a lot of yerba mate or coffee,
  139. 04:36you're getting hydrated, okay? Also
  140. 04:38drink some water if you can. And then we
  141. 04:41know that exercise, nutrition, and
  142. 04:43social connection are also vital. These
  143. 04:45are the core pillars. Now, it's highly
  144. 04:48individual as to whether or not somebody
  145. 04:49needs these every single day, right? I
  146. Exercise Habits & Consistency

  147. 04:52resistance train three times a week. I
  148. 04:53do cardio three times a week. So, that's
  149. 04:54six days a week of exercise. But some of
  150. 04:56those sessions, in particular, the
  151. 04:57high-intensity interval training, it's
  152. 04:59very brief. 6 to 12 minutes to get a
  153. 05:01sort of quote unquote max heart rate V2
  154. 05:03max type workout and very brief. One of
  155. 05:06the cardiovascular exercise training
  156. 05:07sessions is longer. It's an hourong hike
  157. 05:09or jog once a week. You have to figure
  158. 05:12out what you can do consistently over
  159. 05:14time. This is the other critical
  160. 05:16feature. Overoptimization is going to
  161. 05:18come from feeling that you have to do
  162. 05:20everything all the time, right? Which
  163. 05:22undoubtedly will lead to mental or some
  164. 05:24other form of burnout or resentment of
  165. 05:26this whole protocols, health
  166. 05:28optimization thing. It's what you can do
  167. 05:30consistently over time. And when I say
  168. 05:32over time, I don't mean your whole life.
  169. 05:34When I was in graduate school, I
  170. 05:36literally only exercised two to three
  171. 05:38days a week because I was in lab all the
  172. 05:40time. But I was going back and forth to
  173. 05:42the, you know, I had to go to the
  174. 05:43vivarium. I go back and forth and back.
  175. 05:45I was doing so much physical activity.
  176. 05:48So, two or three times a week. I wasn't
  177. 05:50happy about that, but I was in heaven
  178. 05:52doing experiments and I love doing
  179. 05:53science. So, I was full and I was young,
  180. 05:55too. So, I probably offset some of the
  181. 05:57whatever health detriments would have
  182. 05:58been there. And I didn't take very good
  183. 06:00care of my sleep. It eventually caught
  184. 06:02up with me. I made adjustments to my
  185. 06:03sleep. So, what I'm trying to say here
  186. 06:06is that true optimization is about
  187. 06:08taking a rational look at your life over
  188. 06:09the next 6 months or year or if you're
  189. 06:13confronting a deadline over the next
  190. 06:14month or two or if you have a newborn
  191. 06:16child over the next, you know, 6 to 12
  192. 06:18months and you're, you know, as anyone
  193. 06:19who's had a kid will tell you, you know,
  194. 06:21you have to constantly update what you
  195. 06:22can do and what you can't do at
  196. 06:23particular times of day because your job
  197. 06:25is to make sure that they are taken care
  198. 06:27of first and then that you're taken care
  199. 06:29of, right? Uh, this is obvious, but
  200. 06:32optimization is not going to be about
  201. 06:34being rigid. It's going to be about
  202. 06:35being adaptive. So, there's no simple
  203. 06:39prescriptive like when you travel, cut
  204. 06:40back on exercise. In fact, when I
  205. 06:42travel, I try to exercise as much or
  206. 06:44more than when I'm at home because I
  207. 06:46tend to do better on travel, less jet
  208. 06:48lag, etc. I actually try to eat better
  209. 06:51when I'm traveling. That means mostly
  210. 06:52unprocessed or minimally processed
  211. 06:54foods. And I enjoy doing that. For some
  212. 06:56people going on vacation for them is
  213. 06:58really just an opportunity to just like
  214. 07:00I just want to be a complete you know uh
  215. 07:02lazy lump and enjoy myself. Okay, if
  216. 07:04that's your thing that's your thing. You
  217. 07:06are in charge. I think this is the key
  218. 07:08point. You are in charge of which health
  219. 07:12quote unquote optimization protocols you
  220. 07:15use. You are in charge of which ones you
  221. Managing Health Protocol Stress

  222. 07:17don't use. I think the burnout and the
  223. 07:19stress that people are experiencing and
  224. 07:21I do think your point is a good one that
  225. 07:23it can be detrimental if we internalize
  226. 07:26the stress. I have to I have to I have
  227. 07:27to can only be addressed one of three
  228. 07:29ways. The first one is to change your
  229. 07:31attitude about it. Okay. Well, do I like
  230. 07:33this? Do I like the effects? All right.
  231. 07:35Well, if I don't like it, but I like the
  232. 07:36effects and they're big enough for me,
  233. 07:37cool. I'll do it anyway. Ideally, you
  234. 07:39like it and you like the effects, right?
  235. 07:41That's ideal. You're more likely to do
  236. 07:42those things. The next one is you have
  237. 07:44to ask yourself, can I be consistent
  238. 07:46about this? Can I be consistent with six
  239. 07:49workouts a week, even though some are
  240. 07:50very short? Maybe I just need to work
  241. 07:52out longer three times a week, or maybe
  242. 07:53you just get two times a week to work
  243. 07:55out. Can you eat clean, mostly
  244. 07:58unprocessed, minimally processed foods,
  245. 08:00plenty of fiber, plenty of low sugar
  246. 08:02fermented foods, get enough protein,
  247. 08:03etc. whatever that means to you if
  248. 08:05you're vegan, vegetarian or you, you
  249. 08:06know, eat meat does, you know, everyone
  250. 08:08has their different, you know, kind of
  251. 08:09regimens. But you need to be able to do
  252. 08:12that in a way that you enjoy. I like
  253. 08:14eating healthy food, okay? I don't
  254. 08:17really feel good after eating garbage
  255. 08:19food. So, I don't like garbage food. I'm
  256. 08:21not drawn to garbage food, but some
  257. 08:23people really like their their treats.
  258. 08:25They like their quote unquote bad food.
  259. 08:27You're going to have to allow yourself a
  260. 08:28little bit of that if you're going to
  261. 08:30remain a happy person. And certainly if
  262. 08:32you're going to resent all of the
  263. 08:34process, that's the third category. If
  264. 08:35you're going to resent something, you're
  265. 08:37going to resent yourself or whoever you
  266. 08:39think told you to do it. Look, I don't
  267. 08:40tell anyone what to do. I make
  268. 08:42suggestions that you can take or leave.
  269. 08:43And that's what other people in the
  270. 08:45public health communication space are
  271. 08:47doing, too. So, you know, and this is
  272. 08:50true for alcohol, too, as well. You
  273. 08:52know, I've talked a lot about alcohol.
  274. 08:53Zero is better than any. Two is probably
  275. 08:54fine for non-alcoholic adults, etc.,
  276. 08:56etc. But that doesn't mean that I
  277. 08:58condemn people that drink. I personally
  278. 09:00don't like drinking. I feel better when
  279. 09:01I don't. But I have many people in my
  280. 09:03life that enjoy having a drink every
  281. 09:04once in a while and I've insisted that
  282. 09:06they not apologize to me when they order
  283. 09:08a glass of wine. I don't want that. I,
  284. 09:10you know, that can only lead to resent.
  285. 09:11Okay. So, the big one is to ask yourself
  286. 09:14what you can do consistently over time.
  287. 09:16And then really understand what that
  288. 09:18time word means for you. This week, this
  289. 09:20month, this period of your life. And
  290. 09:22just be willing to be flexible, update,
  291. 09:25and then check yourself for resentments,
  292. 09:27right? Do you resent me? Do you resent
  293. 09:29the world that's telling you to do this
  294. 09:31or are you like, "Oh, this is cool."
  295. 09:33Like, "I can take it or leave it." You
  296. 09:34know, you're your own person. I'm
  297. 09:35telling you this to everyone, not just
  298. 09:37you, uh, doctor. Uh, of course, I'm
  299. 09:39telling this to everyone. You're your
  300. Individualizing Your Self-Care

  301. 09:40own person. You are in charge of you.
  302. 09:42Self-care for you is going to mean
  303. 09:43something different than it does to me
  304. 09:45or somebody else. And by no means should
  305. 09:47you feel guilty for coming off the the
  306. 09:50the gas a little bit, as we say, and
  307. 09:52like easing up a little bit. And I will
  308. 09:54make this point. By no means should any
  309. 09:56of you feel guilty for doing every
  310. 09:58little thing perfectly as you see
  311. 10:00perfect to be because you enjoy that and
  312. 10:02because you think it makes you feel
  313. True Definition of Optimization

  314. 10:04better. Do not apologize for being you.
  315. 10:06That's the most important point. And I
  316. 10:08think that's what real optimization is
  317. 10:10about. You know, the saying that I've
  318. 10:11put out on social media a few times over
  319. 10:13the years, but perhaps I haven't put out
  320. 10:14enough is do what you want for you,
  321. 10:18provided you're not hurting anyone else,
  322. 10:21but know what you're doing. This podcast
  323. 10:23is about trying to educate people about
  324. 10:25what they're doing when they do A or B,
  325. 10:28what you might benefit from if you do A
  326. 10:30or B. But you have to be your own
  327. 10:32laboratory. And most importantly, like I
  328. 10:34just said, be you.
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